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<blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 6829978" data-attributes="member: 3887"><p>Oh, it's <em>facts</em> you're a wanting? OK. I'm game!</p><p></p><p>A 5e character with a 5 INT can choose any Background. Including "intellectual" backgrounds like Sage. </p><p></p><p>A 5e character with a 5 INT can go to college for lore and become a Lore Bard. By 3rd level they'll have a total of <strong>8</strong> skills. They can even be good at them! (if their player avoids INT-based skills, of which, as I like pointing out, Medicine is not ) Or they can be barely competent at 2 INT-based skills if you compensate using Expertise.</p><p></p><p>A 5e character with a 5 INT can become a <em>wizard</em>! Put that in your pipe-weed pipe & smoke it. Their spell attacks rolls & save DCs will be bad. That's all. An INT 5 PC can conceivably learn 9th level spells -- there's no INT restriction at all. In fact, it shouldn't be <em>too</em> hard to design a <em>playable</em> INT 5 wizard by selecting mainly utility spells which don't depend on spell attack rolls or saves. So stick to things like divination, summoning, animating household objects & the dead, and... gasp... <em>teleporting</em> (which requires "familiarity", but no INT check). </p><p></p><p>So how do you reconcile this? You're claiming a 5 INT is barely smart enough to have a <em>class</em> in the first place. The rules claim, or rather state, a 5 INT PC can have <em>any</em> class (and theoretically learn the most complex wizard-y spells). Heck, if I have time I might work up a playable 5 INT wizard, "Herp Derp the Eye-Fighter" (he likes to fight Beholders... because he is an idiot!). </p><p></p><p>To be clear, I'm not saying a 5 INT PC should be played the same way a 15 or 20 INT PC is. But if an INT PC isn't prohibited from learning 9th level wizard spells, then they shouldn't be frowned upon for voicing a <em>smart idea</em> or <em>solving a riddle</em> during a session.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mallus, post: 6829978, member: 3887"] Oh, it's [i]facts[/i] you're a wanting? OK. I'm game! A 5e character with a 5 INT can choose any Background. Including "intellectual" backgrounds like Sage. A 5e character with a 5 INT can go to college for lore and become a Lore Bard. By 3rd level they'll have a total of [b]8[/b] skills. They can even be good at them! (if their player avoids INT-based skills, of which, as I like pointing out, Medicine is not ) Or they can be barely competent at 2 INT-based skills if you compensate using Expertise. A 5e character with a 5 INT can become a [i]wizard[/i]! Put that in your pipe-weed pipe & smoke it. Their spell attacks rolls & save DCs will be bad. That's all. An INT 5 PC can conceivably learn 9th level spells -- there's no INT restriction at all. In fact, it shouldn't be [i]too[/i] hard to design a [i]playable[/i] INT 5 wizard by selecting mainly utility spells which don't depend on spell attack rolls or saves. So stick to things like divination, summoning, animating household objects & the dead, and... gasp... [i]teleporting[/i] (which requires "familiarity", but no INT check). So how do you reconcile this? You're claiming a 5 INT is barely smart enough to have a [i]class[/i] in the first place. The rules claim, or rather state, a 5 INT PC can have [i]any[/i] class (and theoretically learn the most complex wizard-y spells). Heck, if I have time I might work up a playable 5 INT wizard, "Herp Derp the Eye-Fighter" (he likes to fight Beholders... because he is an idiot!). To be clear, I'm not saying a 5 INT PC should be played the same way a 15 or 20 INT PC is. But if an INT PC isn't prohibited from learning 9th level wizard spells, then they shouldn't be frowned upon for voicing a [i]smart idea[/i] or [i]solving a riddle[/i] during a session. [/QUOTE]
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