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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6843800" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>I see. So you can slur however you wish and characterize it as putting me on notice without malice, and if I happen to take offense, that would be evidence that I'm acting in the way you slurred me?</p><p></p><p>I can appreciate the self-serving circularity of that statement. Please, don't take that as intended in any way as an insult towards you, I'm just putting you on notice that further such prevarications will be similarly noted as I think they deserve. This is neither friendly nor unfriendly. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it was clearly not immediately apparent that you intended it as a joke. Nor is 'it was a joke' a suitable defense for giving offense. I'll accept that your statement it was intended as a joke, though, and withdraw my accusation of you calling 'badwrongfun.' </p><p></p><p></p><p>Had that been your argument, rather that 'there is no rule', I would have been fine. I didn't respond to your previous statements where you restricted yourself to just that argument for just that reason. You expanded your argument to include other things, which I disagreed with, and those were what I addressed. If you're pulling back to your previous statement, I have no objections.</p><p></p><p>However, I will say that I think you're oversimplifying the arguments being made on the other side by saying that they demand a particular way. I read their arguments as a general proscription of 'don't play a smart guy with a 5 INT' and not 'you must play 5 INT this particular way.' They have some general restrictions on preference, which may or may not be agreed with, and have reasonable rules quotes to support them (those same rules can support other choices, I think, if carefully done), and that doesn't boil down to simply 'this way or no way.' I think you're doing your opponents in this discussion a disservice by listening most critically while insisting that you be taken more loosely. </p><p></p><p>As for the 'IQ equals INTx10' arguments or which edition is what, I've skimmed over those as uninteresting on both sides, so perhaps I missed something in there that's exactly what you're claiming. If so, I'm not speaking to those things, and can't, as I'm intentionally unaware of them or their scope. Feel free to disregard my opinions if such statements are necessary to your argument. I don't care to argue those things, and so won't be the least offended by being disregarded if you, or others, intend to argue them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 6843800, member: 16814"] I see. So you can slur however you wish and characterize it as putting me on notice without malice, and if I happen to take offense, that would be evidence that I'm acting in the way you slurred me? I can appreciate the self-serving circularity of that statement. Please, don't take that as intended in any way as an insult towards you, I'm just putting you on notice that further such prevarications will be similarly noted as I think they deserve. This is neither friendly nor unfriendly. No, it was clearly not immediately apparent that you intended it as a joke. Nor is 'it was a joke' a suitable defense for giving offense. I'll accept that your statement it was intended as a joke, though, and withdraw my accusation of you calling 'badwrongfun.' Had that been your argument, rather that 'there is no rule', I would have been fine. I didn't respond to your previous statements where you restricted yourself to just that argument for just that reason. You expanded your argument to include other things, which I disagreed with, and those were what I addressed. If you're pulling back to your previous statement, I have no objections. However, I will say that I think you're oversimplifying the arguments being made on the other side by saying that they demand a particular way. I read their arguments as a general proscription of 'don't play a smart guy with a 5 INT' and not 'you must play 5 INT this particular way.' They have some general restrictions on preference, which may or may not be agreed with, and have reasonable rules quotes to support them (those same rules can support other choices, I think, if carefully done), and that doesn't boil down to simply 'this way or no way.' I think you're doing your opponents in this discussion a disservice by listening most critically while insisting that you be taken more loosely. As for the 'IQ equals INTx10' arguments or which edition is what, I've skimmed over those as uninteresting on both sides, so perhaps I missed something in there that's exactly what you're claiming. If so, I'm not speaking to those things, and can't, as I'm intentionally unaware of them or their scope. Feel free to disregard my opinions if such statements are necessary to your argument. I don't care to argue those things, and so won't be the least offended by being disregarded if you, or others, intend to argue them. [/QUOTE]
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