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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6846372" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Can you actually state which editions you mean?</p><p></p><p>The ones for which I think there is no rule that IQ = INT*10 are OD&D, AD&D (at least 1st ed, maybe 2nd as well), 4e, 5e, and Moldvay/Marsh/Cook B/X. The remark by Brian Blume in a semi-humorous article, written at a time when the main function of Dragon was to publish house rules and advice, is not a rule for any edition of the game (though perhaps Blume handled things that way at his table).</p><p></p><p>Is the above relevant to the discussion with [MENTION=23751]Maxperson[/MENTION] about IQ?</p><p></p><p>IQ scores provide a ranking, and also indicate a likelihood - so IQ 180 means that X% of people will be at or above that IQ (for some relatively small X, many decimal places less than 1).</p><p></p><p>So does the 3d6 roll: only 1 in 216 (= (1/6)^3) people will have INT 18.</p><p></p><p>But 1 in 216 is approximately 0.5%; hence an 18 INT is far more common, in the imagined population of D&D PCs, than is 180 IQ in the real population of human beings.</p><p></p><p>As far as I can tell, nothing in the above reasoning requires treating IQ, or INT, as measuring some quantity; nor does the notion of a "normal distribution" play a role in the reasoning; nor does the reasoning require treating the mean or SD of any data set as meaningful in the way that you are objecting to.</p><p></p><p>I'm not a mathematician or statistician, but to me it seems to be a rather straightforward argument about likelihoods.</p><p></p><p>(And since writing this reply, I see that [MENTION=6787503]Hriston[/MENTION] has said the same thing as above in post 816.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6846372, member: 42582"] Can you actually state which editions you mean? The ones for which I think there is no rule that IQ = INT*10 are OD&D, AD&D (at least 1st ed, maybe 2nd as well), 4e, 5e, and Moldvay/Marsh/Cook B/X. The remark by Brian Blume in a semi-humorous article, written at a time when the main function of Dragon was to publish house rules and advice, is not a rule for any edition of the game (though perhaps Blume handled things that way at his table). Is the above relevant to the discussion with [MENTION=23751]Maxperson[/MENTION] about IQ? IQ scores provide a ranking, and also indicate a likelihood - so IQ 180 means that X% of people will be at or above that IQ (for some relatively small X, many decimal places less than 1). So does the 3d6 roll: only 1 in 216 (= (1/6)^3) people will have INT 18. But 1 in 216 is approximately 0.5%; hence an 18 INT is far more common, in the imagined population of D&D PCs, than is 180 IQ in the real population of human beings. As far as I can tell, nothing in the above reasoning requires treating IQ, or INT, as measuring some quantity; nor does the notion of a "normal distribution" play a role in the reasoning; nor does the reasoning require treating the mean or SD of any data set as meaningful in the way that you are objecting to. I'm not a mathematician or statistician, but to me it seems to be a rather straightforward argument about likelihoods. (And since writing this reply, I see that [MENTION=6787503]Hriston[/MENTION] has said the same thing as above in post 816.) [/QUOTE]
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