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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6850190" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Book 1 says that INT corrsponds to IQ (the correspondence is not any further defined) and that EDU corresponds to the highest level of formal education. On a quick look through the skill entries, there are no DMs for INT or EDU but the description of Electronics skill says that some checks may require a minimum EDU or INT threshold.</p><p></p><p>Yes. But INT is not done on 3d6. It is 2d6+6. RQ also has a way of distinguishing animal from human INT other than simply by score: it has the notion of Fixed INT for animals, which means the creature behaves in accordance with instinct rather than reason and is unable to learn knowledge or communication skills.</p><p></p><p>In my experience it's a little bit more than that, and relates both to [MENTION=6696971]Manbearcat[/MENTION]'s recent post upthread and [MENTION=16814]Ovinomancer[/MENTION]'s reference to playing a 5 INT PC as Sherlock Holmes.</p><p></p><p>In my experience, RPGers try to bring their PCs' mechanical strengths to bear upon the fictional situation. In practice, that tends to mean that if INT and knowledge skills are not all that good, they will tend to opt for other sorts of solutions. And because many RPGs tend to make physical and/or violent solutions more feasible than they might tend to be in real life (in this respect, fantasy RPGs have genre resemblances to superhero comics, action adventure stories, etc), those other sorts of solutions are often available.</p><p></p><p>As a result, I tend to find it is fairly clear in play who is the cerebral character (often also the wizard, but not universally) and who is not.</p><p></p><p>If the player whose PC has 5 INT and no knowledge skills is declaring a lot of Sherlock Holmes-like actions, perhaps the GM is not framing the 5 INT PC into situations that speak to his/her mechanical strengths. If the player of that PC is declaring Sherlock Holmes-like actions <em>and succeeding</em>, then the problem seems to me to be not in the player's roleplaying, but in the action resolution system being deployed: it doesn't seem to be taking seriously the mechanical features of the PC.</p><p></p><p>In a low mechanics, high fiction resolution system like OD&D, taking the PC's mechanical features seriously may require the GM to veto or at least strictly negotiate certain action declarations. But in a mechanically laden system like 5e, with a whole chapter of rules for stat checks, skills to modify those checks, etc, the GM should probably be able to handle this through much lighter-touch framing of action resolution. In neither case would I see the burden as falling primarily on the <em>player</em>, though - who should be just as free to declare actions involving INT as the player of the 5 STR wizard is free to declare actions involving STR.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6850190, member: 42582"] Book 1 says that INT corrsponds to IQ (the correspondence is not any further defined) and that EDU corresponds to the highest level of formal education. On a quick look through the skill entries, there are no DMs for INT or EDU but the description of Electronics skill says that some checks may require a minimum EDU or INT threshold. Yes. But INT is not done on 3d6. It is 2d6+6. RQ also has a way of distinguishing animal from human INT other than simply by score: it has the notion of Fixed INT for animals, which means the creature behaves in accordance with instinct rather than reason and is unable to learn knowledge or communication skills. In my experience it's a little bit more than that, and relates both to [MENTION=6696971]Manbearcat[/MENTION]'s recent post upthread and [MENTION=16814]Ovinomancer[/MENTION]'s reference to playing a 5 INT PC as Sherlock Holmes. In my experience, RPGers try to bring their PCs' mechanical strengths to bear upon the fictional situation. In practice, that tends to mean that if INT and knowledge skills are not all that good, they will tend to opt for other sorts of solutions. And because many RPGs tend to make physical and/or violent solutions more feasible than they might tend to be in real life (in this respect, fantasy RPGs have genre resemblances to superhero comics, action adventure stories, etc), those other sorts of solutions are often available. As a result, I tend to find it is fairly clear in play who is the cerebral character (often also the wizard, but not universally) and who is not. If the player whose PC has 5 INT and no knowledge skills is declaring a lot of Sherlock Holmes-like actions, perhaps the GM is not framing the 5 INT PC into situations that speak to his/her mechanical strengths. If the player of that PC is declaring Sherlock Holmes-like actions [I]and succeeding[/I], then the problem seems to me to be not in the player's roleplaying, but in the action resolution system being deployed: it doesn't seem to be taking seriously the mechanical features of the PC. In a low mechanics, high fiction resolution system like OD&D, taking the PC's mechanical features seriously may require the GM to veto or at least strictly negotiate certain action declarations. But in a mechanically laden system like 5e, with a whole chapter of rules for stat checks, skills to modify those checks, etc, the GM should probably be able to handle this through much lighter-touch framing of action resolution. In neither case would I see the burden as falling primarily on the [I]player[/I], though - who should be just as free to declare actions involving INT as the player of the 5 STR wizard is free to declare actions involving STR. [/QUOTE]
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