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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6851601" data-attributes="member: 16814">Statements of belief absent any evidence are difficult to accept.  I provided my evidence.  Sherlock is described as a genius.  Everyone treats him as such.  His notional identity across all popular understanding of the character has him as a genius.  Ergo, under all available descriptions, Sherlock is a genius.Also, 5 INT is below average by definition.  This is pretty inarguable.Therefore, if Sherlock is a genius, which is definitionally above average, he cannot have a below average INT score.  That you cobbled together a bunch of stats to create something that can get a high Investigation check if they roll perfectly doesn't actually address my points, and it's flawed by quickly showing that even an average intelligence beats your construct if similarly built, meaning it fails the other definitions of Sherlock as being one of the best and without peer.  Meeting a narrowly defined aspect of capability doesn't mean you're successful at being the thing, else a flip phone would be the same as a brand new Galaxy or iPhone because it can make calls.  Having one trait doesn't mean you have all necessary traits.  That even ignores that fact that your argument doesn't address mine.So, yes, you're correct that I'm not going to convert to your faith about Sherlock having a 5 INT.  It's logically unsound.Aw, come on, there's clearly very intelligent people arguing here.  5 WIS, though....</blockquote>

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