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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sevenbastard" data-source="post: 9579210" data-attributes="member: 83473">2e took the complicated rules of 1e and made them simpler, easier to understand, and better organized. It increased the crunch level of PC creation by including things like proficiency, weapon specialization, specialist clerics and magic users, and eventually kits. But not to the level of 3e or 4e. So yeah I can see what he means 2e and 5e or similar in they are medium crunch and beginner friendly. Now if the 2e team could have done what they wanted and not had  to use legacy things like THAC0 and been able to call proficiency skills, we would have got a even simpler system, but TSR insisted on backwards compatibility.</blockquote>