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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6305277" data-attributes="member: 177">*shrug*.&nbsp; I think the question depends upon the publisher's goals.&nbsp; If the publisher wants, in essence, to have its own game that folks buy, without customers ever having any need or desire to go back to WotC again, then, yes, the license is defeated.&nbsp; However, I don't think the, &quot;you bought the PHB, and now never have to buy from WotC again&quot; end serves WotC well at all anyway, so I don't see defeating that end is not an issue.I don't expect WotC wants whole new games.&nbsp; Those don't serve WotC much.&nbsp; WotC probably wants support products.&nbsp; Adventures, adventure paths, adventure hooks, occasional really interesting rules supplements, setting and fluff variations.&nbsp; Now, maybe nobody wants to get into that business for WotC, and maybe WotC would be better served with a really active contracting program.&nbsp; Then, you get no licenses at all. Mr. Dancy spoke to WotC's ends nearly a decade and a half ago.&nbsp; The world has changed.&nbsp; And, he has made it very clear, he was serving ends that were not actually WotC's!&nbsp; Maybe WotC has seen a problem with that since? Nope.&nbsp; But, I'm willing to listen and think on other options.&nbsp; Open License or not - *I* am open.&nbsp; Are you?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6305277, member: 177"] *shrug*. I think the question depends upon the publisher's goals. If the publisher wants, in essence, to have its own game that folks buy, without customers ever having any need or desire to go back to WotC again, then, yes, the license is defeated. However, I don't think the, "you bought the PHB, and now never have to buy from WotC again" end serves WotC well at all anyway, so I don't see defeating that end is not an issue. I don't expect WotC wants whole new games. Those don't serve WotC much. WotC probably wants support products. Adventures, adventure paths, adventure hooks, occasional really interesting rules supplements, setting and fluff variations. Now, maybe nobody wants to get into that business for WotC, and maybe WotC would be better served with a really active contracting program. Then, you get no licenses at all. Mr. Dancy spoke to WotC's ends nearly a decade and a half ago. The world has changed. And, he has made it very clear, he was serving ends that were not actually WotC's! Maybe WotC has seen a problem with that since? Nope. But, I'm willing to listen and think on other options. Open License or not - *I* am open. Are you? [/QUOTE]

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