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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6305390" data-attributes="member: 6689464"><p>Ok, just remember what I said at the beginning, when 4e <strong>came out</strong> it was a Huge drastic change for many players. And word for word I wrote "What happened to stone-age, <strong>bronze -age</strong> and<strong> futuristic</strong> campaigns?" core 3.5 had those options laid out in the DMG (the core). Yes Dark Sun is technically stone age, but it is closer to Hyboria than prehistoric campaigns and I said "sword and sandal" - bronze age. (And Dark sun is not in the core). This was a core versus core comparison. (Again I like 4e, so much I began working on a possible clone of it, to date one of my biggest griefs is that 4e didn't feel finished, there was too much room left to explore and that is a shame. However the initial shock and so many changes kept me from getting into it earlier, it took me a serious effort of getting at it with an open mind to play it long enough to learn of its strengths. Not many players were this open minded though.) </p><p></p><p></p><p>this is a playstyle thing. I guess you don't get too many non-combatant <strong>PCs</strong>. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>By definition a passion crime is the opposite of cold murder, in this situation. An impulsive crime that wouldn't have happened should the break-up had been in more amenable circumstances. Few people have the self control not to respond with aggression when faced with a situation of betrayal and extreme humiliation and a quick mean to deliver on a quick aggression. Wanting it or not, WotC did drive Paizo to work on PF and jump down Wizard's bandwagon,had they handled it better they would have had them working with them instead of competing against them -OGL or not-.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 6305390, member: 6689464"] Ok, just remember what I said at the beginning, when 4e [B]came out[/B] it was a Huge drastic change for many players. And word for word I wrote "What happened to stone-age, [B]bronze -age[/B] and[B] futuristic[/B] campaigns?" core 3.5 had those options laid out in the DMG (the core). Yes Dark Sun is technically stone age, but it is closer to Hyboria than prehistoric campaigns and I said "sword and sandal" - bronze age. (And Dark sun is not in the core). This was a core versus core comparison. (Again I like 4e, so much I began working on a possible clone of it, to date one of my biggest griefs is that 4e didn't feel finished, there was too much room left to explore and that is a shame. However the initial shock and so many changes kept me from getting into it earlier, it took me a serious effort of getting at it with an open mind to play it long enough to learn of its strengths. Not many players were this open minded though.) this is a playstyle thing. I guess you don't get too many non-combatant [B]PCs[/B]. By definition a passion crime is the opposite of cold murder, in this situation. An impulsive crime that wouldn't have happened should the break-up had been in more amenable circumstances. Few people have the self control not to respond with aggression when faced with a situation of betrayal and extreme humiliation and a quick mean to deliver on a quick aggression. Wanting it or not, WotC did drive Paizo to work on PF and jump down Wizard's bandwagon,had they handled it better they would have had them working with them instead of competing against them -OGL or not-. [/QUOTE]
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