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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6305392" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Yes. I know. I do not think highly of Dancey when it comes to this topic (though I do when it comes to some otherts). I think he was not thinking in favor of the company he was working for <strong>as muc</strong>h as he was thinking in terms of outside interests, and that he was not particularly mindful of fiduciary duties. And I think his actions since then, including things he's said and what he's done, indicate those actions were not in the best interests of WOTC, but were in the best interests of Dancey and the fans and third party companies (which is nice for us, but not nice for WOTC, the company he was working for). Is that clear enough? Is it now crystal clear that I absolutely know Dancey was fighting against what I am talking about - and that I think he was not acting in good faith when he did that from the perspective of the company he was working for.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that is not what I said at all. I said it guaranteed a GREATER FRACTURE in the community. Regardless of how good the new editions would be in the future (and this impacts editions 100 years from now - it's indefinite), there are always those who will like the prior edition simply out of inertia - it's what they are playing now, they want continued support for it, they don't want to disrupt their current game with a new rules said. We have seen that with every single prior edition, not just 4e but 3e and 2e as well, and now with 5e. The OGL makes that worse. That is my point. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are deeply unaware of what happened if you think that is how it went down. There was a MASSIVE fracture in the community at the time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, this is a view that seems to lack some knowledge of the history of how things happened. There was once more a BIG fracture in the community. Every new edition has a fracture in the community - but the OGL makes it much much worse, because there is less incentive to check out the new edition, and more fuel to complain about it by seeking out someone still supporting the old edition.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is incredibly false. If I had to guess, you were not around on usenet at the time this was happening, where support for 2e was hanging out. There is STILL lots of outrage out there by 2e supporters concerning how horrible they think 3e was. It would have been much worse at the time if major 2e support had continued in competition with 3e simultaneously.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6305392, member: 2525"] Yes. I know. I do not think highly of Dancey when it comes to this topic (though I do when it comes to some otherts). I think he was not thinking in favor of the company he was working for [B]as muc[/B]h as he was thinking in terms of outside interests, and that he was not particularly mindful of fiduciary duties. And I think his actions since then, including things he's said and what he's done, indicate those actions were not in the best interests of WOTC, but were in the best interests of Dancey and the fans and third party companies (which is nice for us, but not nice for WOTC, the company he was working for). Is that clear enough? Is it now crystal clear that I absolutely know Dancey was fighting against what I am talking about - and that I think he was not acting in good faith when he did that from the perspective of the company he was working for. And that is not what I said at all. I said it guaranteed a GREATER FRACTURE in the community. Regardless of how good the new editions would be in the future (and this impacts editions 100 years from now - it's indefinite), there are always those who will like the prior edition simply out of inertia - it's what they are playing now, they want continued support for it, they don't want to disrupt their current game with a new rules said. We have seen that with every single prior edition, not just 4e but 3e and 2e as well, and now with 5e. The OGL makes that worse. That is my point. You are deeply unaware of what happened if you think that is how it went down. There was a MASSIVE fracture in the community at the time. Again, this is a view that seems to lack some knowledge of the history of how things happened. There was once more a BIG fracture in the community. Every new edition has a fracture in the community - but the OGL makes it much much worse, because there is less incentive to check out the new edition, and more fuel to complain about it by seeking out someone still supporting the old edition. That is incredibly false. If I had to guess, you were not around on usenet at the time this was happening, where support for 2e was hanging out. There is STILL lots of outrage out there by 2e supporters concerning how horrible they think 3e was. It would have been much worse at the time if major 2e support had continued in competition with 3e simultaneously. [/QUOTE]
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