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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6638073" data-attributes="member: 67338">I disagree I see the history of 2001-2007 as being pretty much what I said&nbsp;there was no ogl...and a bright and shinny new OGL for 5e I fear would be a repete... you know of historythe company actually decided to go back to it's own system to not water donw with things like d20... and good for them.&nbsp;how? How can anyone look at the big picture if people who feel harmed are told &quot;You can't say it was harmful&quot;it's like saying &quot;Everyone loves X&quot; &quot;I don't love X&quot; &quot;You don't count we can only talk about likeing and loving X&quot; and then saying &quot;After discounting everyone who didn't love X we can prove everyone loves X&quot;yes I did... in fact that is what happened in every edition change ever...&nbsp;that is what happens... you can't ge the board I have in my bedroom anymore, they changed it, now they only sell the new one. If you don't understand that is not limiting choice, it's moving on. COmpanies do it all the tiem.&nbsp;none of it would have happened with out an OGL... so are you on my side now of OGL has good AND bad things??and with no OGL??&nbsp;except the ogl or pizo... those no one should point out anything bad...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 6638073, member: 67338"] I disagree I see the history of 2001-2007 as being pretty much what I said there was no ogl... and a bright and shinny new OGL for 5e I fear would be a repete... you know of history the company actually decided to go back to it's own system to not water donw with things like d20... and good for them. how? How can anyone look at the big picture if people who feel harmed are told "You can't say it was harmful" it's like saying "Everyone loves X" "I don't love X" "You don't count we can only talk about likeing and loving X" and then saying "After discounting everyone who didn't love X we can prove everyone loves X" yes I did... in fact that is what happened in every edition change ever... that is what happens... you can't ge the board I have in my bedroom anymore, they changed it, now they only sell the new one. If you don't understand that is not limiting choice, it's moving on. COmpanies do it all the tiem. none of it would have happened with out an OGL... so are you on my side now of OGL has good AND bad things?? and with no OGL?? except the ogl or pizo... those no one should point out anything bad... [/QUOTE]

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