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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 6671187" data-attributes="member: 40359">But a few hundred dollars for a lawyer is a far cry from the safe harbor of the OGL. Speaking personally, I'm ramping up on some Pathfinder products and would love to do 5e as well but won't touch it without an OGL for two reasons:1) There is a difference between &quot;not believing enough in your idea to pay for a lawyer&quot; and &quot;not believing a couple hours with a lawyer is enough of a guarantee compared to the whim's of a major corporation's legal division.&quot; WotC deliberately saying &quot;it's ok to use this with the OGL&quot; is the high bar I want met rather than &quot;they said it was ok to use something similar enough years ago that I can kinda fake it to fit with this newer stuff they haven't said was ok.&quot;2) Not as an accusation against anyone (since this is a standard I'm comfortable with for myself, but wouldn't hold anyone else to it), but for me, if WotC hasn't said &quot;please play with our toys&quot; to 3PP, then I don't think I should go playing with their toys. When they release the 5e rules under the OGL, I will be all over that. But until they do, no matter how much I believe in my ideas, I'm not going to dive in and hope they don't notice or mind - and if they do mind, pulling out my lawyer and telling them too bad they have to let me play with their toys.So until WotC officially says &quot;this is how 3PP can use 5e&quot;, I will stick with Pathfinder only.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 6671187, member: 40359"] But a few hundred dollars for a lawyer is a far cry from the safe harbor of the OGL. Speaking personally, I'm ramping up on some Pathfinder products and would love to do 5e as well but won't touch it without an OGL for two reasons: 1) There is a difference between "not believing enough in your idea to pay for a lawyer" and "not believing a couple hours with a lawyer is enough of a guarantee compared to the whim's of a major corporation's legal division." WotC deliberately saying "it's ok to use this with the OGL" is the high bar I want met rather than "they said it was ok to use something similar enough years ago that I can kinda fake it to fit with this newer stuff they haven't said was ok." 2) Not as an accusation against anyone (since this is a standard I'm comfortable with for myself, but wouldn't hold anyone else to it), but for me, if WotC hasn't said "please play with our toys" to 3PP, then I don't think I should go playing with their toys. When they release the 5e rules under the OGL, I will be all over that. But until they do, no matter how much I believe in my ideas, I'm not going to dive in and hope they don't notice or mind - and if they do mind, pulling out my lawyer and telling them too bad they have to let me play with their toys. So until WotC officially says "this is how 3PP can use 5e", I will stick with Pathfinder only. [/QUOTE]

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