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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6686022" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p><a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/third_party" target="_blank">https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/third_party</a></p><p><em>someone not directly involved in a transaction. A third entity in the Seller (first party) and Customer (second party) relationship. A Seller may employ a third party to perform specific services to augment the value of a product. For example, a manufacturer may employ a third party to pack and distribute a product. A computer manufacturer may augment their product with software from a third-party supplier.</em></p><p></p><p>Yeah, not an ideal definition, but "3rd party" is a term that covers a lot of different stuff. But, generally, WotC is the first party as the creator of the licence, and the second party is the consumer. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Arguably it's a 3PP of Fudge. But, this is true. It would be a 1st Party product. </p><p>But this is an odd example, as Fudge didn't really need to use the OGL, being unrelated to D&D and not employing the SRD. It's OGL probably because they either didn't know of the Creative Commons Licence or it didn't exist yet. It's not really a great example of an OGL product or what to expect from future OGL products. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a 1st Party Product (by WotC for a WotC game) that was incorporated into the SRD and included the OGL so it could be used and referenced. It wasn't released under the OGL.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which was my point. </p><p>The OGL doesn't reference this, but character creation was and issue with the GSL and its SRD. Knowing the OGL exists and knowing the details of it enough to have an informed opinion are two different things. "OGL" is just a catchall that often is not well understood.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6686022, member: 37579"] [URL]https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/third_party[/URL] [I]someone not directly involved in a transaction. A third entity in the Seller (first party) and Customer (second party) relationship. A Seller may employ a third party to perform specific services to augment the value of a product. For example, a manufacturer may employ a third party to pack and distribute a product. A computer manufacturer may augment their product with software from a third-party supplier.[/I] Yeah, not an ideal definition, but "3rd party" is a term that covers a lot of different stuff. But, generally, WotC is the first party as the creator of the licence, and the second party is the consumer. Arguably it's a 3PP of Fudge. But, this is true. It would be a 1st Party product. But this is an odd example, as Fudge didn't really need to use the OGL, being unrelated to D&D and not employing the SRD. It's OGL probably because they either didn't know of the Creative Commons Licence or it didn't exist yet. It's not really a great example of an OGL product or what to expect from future OGL products. This is a 1st Party Product (by WotC for a WotC game) that was incorporated into the SRD and included the OGL so it could be used and referenced. It wasn't released under the OGL. Which was my point. The OGL doesn't reference this, but character creation was and issue with the GSL and its SRD. Knowing the OGL exists and knowing the details of it enough to have an informed opinion are two different things. "OGL" is just a catchall that often is not well understood. [/QUOTE]
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