Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
So, 5e OGL
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 6686467" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>The CC is not all-or-nothing; it can cover any copyrightable work, including part of a book. One can publish a CC-BY-SA work in an anthology that is otherwise copyrighted.</p><p></p><p>The phrase "public domain" is a bad one here; the CC licenses never declare anything to be public domain. They declare things to be usable by the public, an entirely different proposal.</p><p></p><p>The NC, ND, and NC-ND CC licenses are not alternatives to the OGL; they are substantially more restrictive, and the reasons to use them instead of the OGL are obvious if you want no commercial or no derivatives.</p><p></p><p>Both the CC-BY and CC-BY-SA licenses have big advantages in that they're recognized as Free licenses, recognized by the Free Software Foundation and the Wikimedia Foundation. PCGen does not ship with Debian because they don't consider Free, and while I'm sure a discussion on that could led us far astray, suffice it to say they have their principles and have made their decision on them. Having a license well-understood as Free instead of one that's debatable so can be a big advantage in working with groups outside of the RPG industry. They're also lighter weight than the OGL, not requiring the whole license to be repeated in every book. They both get rid of the trademark clauses; I doubt having "This product is compatible with the Pathfinder RPG; this product is neither authorized by or associated with Paizo, the publishers of the Pathfinder RPG." is a huge problem for most people.</p><p></p><p>The CC-BY is nice and easy for everyone involved; just provide the attribution, and don't worry about all the other stuff. The share-alike part of the OGL is as often as not a farce; there's pretty much nothing interesting reusable from the Scarred Lands Creature Collection, and there's a lot of books whose vagueness makes it hard to extract any OGL material. So stop stressing about it.</p><p></p><p>(It's interesting how different the D&D 3 and Pathfinder environments have been about this. The share-alike features of the OGL hardly came into play in the 3E era; they could have been left out. In Pathfinder there has been a lot more sharing at points. On the other hand, the Tomb of Horrors may not have had to share at all, given that they were licensing direct from WotC, and Pathfinder publishers could choose less than the most restrictive license they had available.)</p><p></p><p>The CC-BY-SA is tighter on its share-alike rules. I would say the CC-BY-SA part at least would have to be clearly separable. It might make some of the licensed works unfeasible, but at the same time it would make a lot more reusable material. </p><p></p><p>The CC licenses offer different things from the OGL. If you need something that's not exactly OGL, one of them might fit much better. And if you're worried about fitting in, remember the CC licenses are way more common (Wikipedia, etc.) and way more well known then the OGL.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 6686467, member: 40166"] The CC is not all-or-nothing; it can cover any copyrightable work, including part of a book. One can publish a CC-BY-SA work in an anthology that is otherwise copyrighted. The phrase "public domain" is a bad one here; the CC licenses never declare anything to be public domain. They declare things to be usable by the public, an entirely different proposal. The NC, ND, and NC-ND CC licenses are not alternatives to the OGL; they are substantially more restrictive, and the reasons to use them instead of the OGL are obvious if you want no commercial or no derivatives. Both the CC-BY and CC-BY-SA licenses have big advantages in that they're recognized as Free licenses, recognized by the Free Software Foundation and the Wikimedia Foundation. PCGen does not ship with Debian because they don't consider Free, and while I'm sure a discussion on that could led us far astray, suffice it to say they have their principles and have made their decision on them. Having a license well-understood as Free instead of one that's debatable so can be a big advantage in working with groups outside of the RPG industry. They're also lighter weight than the OGL, not requiring the whole license to be repeated in every book. They both get rid of the trademark clauses; I doubt having "This product is compatible with the Pathfinder RPG; this product is neither authorized by or associated with Paizo, the publishers of the Pathfinder RPG." is a huge problem for most people. The CC-BY is nice and easy for everyone involved; just provide the attribution, and don't worry about all the other stuff. The share-alike part of the OGL is as often as not a farce; there's pretty much nothing interesting reusable from the Scarred Lands Creature Collection, and there's a lot of books whose vagueness makes it hard to extract any OGL material. So stop stressing about it. (It's interesting how different the D&D 3 and Pathfinder environments have been about this. The share-alike features of the OGL hardly came into play in the 3E era; they could have been left out. In Pathfinder there has been a lot more sharing at points. On the other hand, the Tomb of Horrors may not have had to share at all, given that they were licensing direct from WotC, and Pathfinder publishers could choose less than the most restrictive license they had available.) The CC-BY-SA is tighter on its share-alike rules. I would say the CC-BY-SA part at least would have to be clearly separable. It might make some of the licensed works unfeasible, but at the same time it would make a lot more reusable material. The CC licenses offer different things from the OGL. If you need something that's not exactly OGL, one of them might fit much better. And if you're worried about fitting in, remember the CC licenses are way more common (Wikipedia, etc.) and way more well known then the OGL. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
So, 5e OGL
Top