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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nefarii" data-source="post: 5007540" data-attributes="member: 54541">Alright I think it's safe to say I have your attention, I am pretty sure I am reading this right, this post is doubling as a guide for an interesting combo idea as well as double checking the validity of this find. So, I was looking through the new classes because one of my friends started doing a dragon born campaign and I wanted to create a new character and I stumbled upon this...So my str is 18 which jumps to 20 after the racial bonus or a +5 and my con is +4, I'm wielding a longsword, I have lightning for dragons breath, and then I took the feats:Enlarged breath (dragon's breath goes from 3x3 to 5x5)Primal Breath (Marks every target in the breath attack, not just the ones that are hit, but every target)so if 25 baddies are coming at me (albeit in a 5x5 grid) and I dragon breath them, everyone of them is marked, whether I miss or hit. If I hit every creature, damage would then be 25d6+100.Now wardens fury kicks in, warden's fury is an attack that does 1d8+5 to every creature marked that cannot attack me, so if 25 creatures are marked and only 8 squares are adjacent to me that means 17 of them take warden's fury or 17d8+85.Now if I use my daily, form of mountain's thunder, and I attack one of the creatures around me with tempest assault I do 1d8+5 damage to that creature +4 to one other creature and do +5 to all 25 creatures, or 1d8+134.25d6+100 = 250 or an average of 17517d8+85 = 221 or an average of 1631d8+134 = 142 or an average of 138for a total of 613 or an average of 476, this is of course assuming that you hit every creature with you breath attack as well as every creature with warden's fury but still kinda insane.Now another interesting thing to note is its effects on minions, in the primal book primal breath is very very ambiguous and says "... you can choose to mark each target" (140), which to me means whether you miss or hit with the dragon breath, the creature is still a target of the dragon's breath and therefore free to mark. Now I know with the minions it says that they are not effected by attacks that still deal damage when missed, but this doesn't deal damage, slow the target, make him prone, or anything else that effects him... all it does is mark him... so does this combo apply to minions? Another interesting power is Gale Strike which does 2d8+5 to one creature and +4 to every other creature marked. Also for my next feat I was thinking about taking Raging Storms which does another +1 to all lightning and thunder damage which adds an insane amount of damage on this large of scale.Im interested to hear your replies, Im sure I will get a few ; )</blockquote>

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