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<blockquote data-quote="Gizzard" data-source="post: 1300631" data-attributes="member: 527">If you're not engaging in a lot of combat thats probably true.&nbsp; But I agree with the poster on the previous page about the 47 point Half-Orc Barbarian - we had the same experience in our group.&nbsp; The Barbarian was very strong in combat and he had silly amounts of Skill Points to throw around to make sure he was good at plenty of other stuff.&nbsp; Other players may have been better role-players or smarter tactically, but it really didn't matter as the Barbarian way just flat-out stronger in combat.&nbsp; (Sidenote: I saw the player &quot;roll&quot; his Barbarian in two tries using the Character Gen utility which came with the 3.0E PHB.&nbsp; Was that cheating to roll twice?&nbsp; Would the DM have allowed it if he had known?&nbsp; Exactly the reason why the DM should not tempt even fundamentally honest players if he expects a level playing field.)Now this was from 1st-6th level, and I'm sure being a better player means more when you are 15th level.&nbsp; But the biggest chunk of people play low- and mid-level characters, and that's where an 18 is a noticable advantage over a 15.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gizzard, post: 1300631, member: 527"] If you're not engaging in a lot of combat thats probably true. But I agree with the poster on the previous page about the 47 point Half-Orc Barbarian - we had the same experience in our group. The Barbarian was very strong in combat and he had silly amounts of Skill Points to throw around to make sure he was good at plenty of other stuff. Other players may have been better role-players or smarter tactically, but it really didn't matter as the Barbarian way just flat-out stronger in combat. (Sidenote: I saw the player "roll" his Barbarian in two tries using the Character Gen utility which came with the 3.0E PHB. Was that cheating to roll twice? Would the DM have allowed it if he had known? Exactly the reason why the DM should not tempt even fundamentally honest players if he expects a level playing field.) Now this was from 1st-6th level, and I'm sure being a better player means more when you are 15th level. But the biggest chunk of people play low- and mid-level characters, and that's where an 18 is a noticable advantage over a 15. [/QUOTE]

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