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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4745229" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Can the Leader do this every round?</p><p></p><p>Isn't it possible with multiple monsters that the Leader is needed for something else?</p><p></p><p>What if the group does not have a Leader?</p><p></p><p>What if the Leader is the first PC dominated?</p><p></p><p>Look at my signature below. It has nothing to do with Readied Actions.</p><p></p><p>It has to do with people claiming that in game solutions are the solution to mechanical problems. The in game solutions rarely work because not all situations are the same, nor are all party makeups the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We are willing to discuss here. Since it is your claim that Leaders get all of these wonderful powers that adjust defenses, go do the homework to make up a list of these powers and write up what a typical leader might have in buff, debuff, and healing powers.</p><p></p><p>Then, we can sit down and see how many times a leader could actually get rid of conditions in a 20 round Epic encounter. Is it 1 round? 5 rounds? How many rounds and times a leader can actually buff. Can he give a bonus of +2? +5?</p><p></p><p>If you want to add some math to your POV to counter the known math flaws, you have to do some work instead of just making the claim without anything to back it up.</p><p></p><p>One final point. The math is off. That's a fact. What is in dispute is whether the synergy bonuses, powers, and other game mechanics at Epic level make up for the math problems.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Until the power recharges and the PC gets hit with it a second time.</p><p></p><p>So far, you are making claims that the math is fine without any real backup. Saying that the defender can automatically fix something is flawed in that the defender might not be able to fix it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 4745229, member: 2011"] Can the Leader do this every round? Isn't it possible with multiple monsters that the Leader is needed for something else? What if the group does not have a Leader? What if the Leader is the first PC dominated? Look at my signature below. It has nothing to do with Readied Actions. It has to do with people claiming that in game solutions are the solution to mechanical problems. The in game solutions rarely work because not all situations are the same, nor are all party makeups the same. We are willing to discuss here. Since it is your claim that Leaders get all of these wonderful powers that adjust defenses, go do the homework to make up a list of these powers and write up what a typical leader might have in buff, debuff, and healing powers. Then, we can sit down and see how many times a leader could actually get rid of conditions in a 20 round Epic encounter. Is it 1 round? 5 rounds? How many rounds and times a leader can actually buff. Can he give a bonus of +2? +5? If you want to add some math to your POV to counter the known math flaws, you have to do some work instead of just making the claim without anything to back it up. One final point. The math is off. That's a fact. What is in dispute is whether the synergy bonuses, powers, and other game mechanics at Epic level make up for the math problems. Until the power recharges and the PC gets hit with it a second time. So far, you are making claims that the math is fine without any real backup. Saying that the defender can automatically fix something is flawed in that the defender might not be able to fix it. [/QUOTE]
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