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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4746988" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>WotC intent can easily be determined from the evidence.</p><p></p><p>WotC over and over again stated before the release of 4E that the sweet spot is the same no matter what level the PCs are at. They were not talking about challenge, they were talking about to hit and being hit. Go back and listen to the old podcasts.</p><p></p><p>WotC "fixed" heavy armor in AV and in PHB II for the Paragon level sag. There is a delta of 2 between pre-fix and post-fix in one case. Obviously, they want the math to be consistent.</p><p></p><p>After stating many times last year that they were not going to put many "bonuses to hit" in the game, WotC "fixed" to hit in PHB II not with one feat, but with 7 different ones (1 all of the time, 6 conditional). In PHB, there are 2 feats that are conditional IIRC.</p><p></p><p>Their to hit philosophy totally changed here.</p><p></p><p>Finally, they added a feat that adds +2 to 3 defenses (a total of +6) and three feats that add +4 to one defense and stack with anything. +4 in a D20 system is HUGE.</p><p></p><p>If this does not shout "fix" to some people, it's probably because they are not looking at the big overall picture and remembering the WotC claims and promises from nearly a year ago.</p><p></p><p>If the game system was perfect, there would be no need for errata. Obviously, no game system is perfect. Assuming that WotC "knew what they were doing" when the recent changes are in direct contradiction with their statements from last year indicates that they found a problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Agreed. What is more bothersome to me is that they apparently did not take out the 15 minutes to create a math spreadsheet. Otherwise, they would have found the Heavy Armor Paragon sag in 2 seconds and fixed it pre-PHB release.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 4746988, member: 2011"] WotC intent can easily be determined from the evidence. WotC over and over again stated before the release of 4E that the sweet spot is the same no matter what level the PCs are at. They were not talking about challenge, they were talking about to hit and being hit. Go back and listen to the old podcasts. WotC "fixed" heavy armor in AV and in PHB II for the Paragon level sag. There is a delta of 2 between pre-fix and post-fix in one case. Obviously, they want the math to be consistent. After stating many times last year that they were not going to put many "bonuses to hit" in the game, WotC "fixed" to hit in PHB II not with one feat, but with 7 different ones (1 all of the time, 6 conditional). In PHB, there are 2 feats that are conditional IIRC. Their to hit philosophy totally changed here. Finally, they added a feat that adds +2 to 3 defenses (a total of +6) and three feats that add +4 to one defense and stack with anything. +4 in a D20 system is HUGE. If this does not shout "fix" to some people, it's probably because they are not looking at the big overall picture and remembering the WotC claims and promises from nearly a year ago. If the game system was perfect, there would be no need for errata. Obviously, no game system is perfect. Assuming that WotC "knew what they were doing" when the recent changes are in direct contradiction with their statements from last year indicates that they found a problem. Agreed. What is more bothersome to me is that they apparently did not take out the 15 minutes to create a math spreadsheet. Otherwise, they would have found the Heavy Armor Paragon sag in 2 seconds and fixed it pre-PHB release. [/QUOTE]
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