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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bayuer" data-source="post: 4755213" data-attributes="member: 61817">[quote<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />racoSuave]AC 38, Fort 35, Reflex 34, Will 38.Now, firstly, my best NAD is not lagging anywhere behind my AC. It is, in fact, -ahead- of the curve. But that's beside the point. I went through the list of level 21 monsters to see who -could- hit this guy with a better chance than 10 or better.</blockquote>Firstly you taken Reboust Defense with is one of math fixing feats! Secodnly Shield Spezialization don't stuck. You can't have 16,16,14 as starting array (16,16,13,11,10,8 array), so your stats will be S24 Con13 Dex15 Int10, Wis12, Cha26. Shield Spezialization cost you 2 feats! That's huge. 2/18 feats taken. Why do you thing that Iron Will and any other paragon defense feat isn't fix? You can easily see that you state them as must have for your build... And this is all we talking about. And on 21 lvl you will not have for sure +5 neck item! On 22 lvl we can agree, but not 21lvl. If someone will take it at this level, he must understand that this +1 is very, very needed.And this is heavy optizmied build! With Demigod and Shield taken (I don't see sorrcerer running with heavy shield and leather armor but this is not important flaw).And epic isn't hard becouse of that, but becouse too many healing options and option you can take extended rest and you power is crushing in fghts L,L+1.I did the same character with Character Builder and...:Here is version with +5 neck, AC items:And here with Rebous Defenses and Shield Spezialization:Dex 15 is prerquiste for Shield Spezialization but since we have retrain option so on 21 lvl we can have 2 epic feats... So:This version where you spend 5 feats! 5 feats to make your stats better! WOW! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />21 lvl Soldier have +28 vs. AC; +26 vs. NADs.Your probably stats: AC: 35 Fort: 32 Reflex: 31 Will: 35AC on 7, Fort on 6,  Refl on 3, Will on 9. And this is 21 lvl, where gap just starting to show! On 30 level this numbers will be strongly worst:/And let's see version with feats (+4 magic neck, AC items):AC: 36 Fort: 34 Reflex: 33 Will: 37Ac on 9, Fort on 8, Ref on 5, Will 11.You probably will invest in Epic Ref on 22 lvl. this will make Ref hitted on 9.Feats spended to achive this: Leather armor, Armor Specialization (or Shield Specialization), Light Shield, Heavy Shield, Reboust Defenses, Epic Reflex - 6 from 18 total feats!On late epic you will probably take another Epic feat for your FOR so thats 7/18 feats lost...As you can see Draco, withou Rebust Defense you NADs sucks. you calculated this feat so you think it's needed. And this is what we were previously saying. This feat is must have! Just like Weapon Expertise... So 8/18 feats spended just to make math work. Man. And on 21 lvl gap isn't realy huge. Rebust makes it more solid as I stated before. You best NAD is now abouve averaga is it was on 1 lvl.Anyway I must agree with Elric. There aren't any new facts in this thread, so there's no more any reason to take it further.[/QUOTE]

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