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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 4703603" data-attributes="member: 65726">I'm not buying the "there are other useful feats, so this feat is fine" argument. I don't think anybody is saying "you get expertise, you win D&D". Yes, there are plenty of feats that are useful, or character defining. But this feat can very easily create significant discrepency between characters who take it, and characters who don't. One example is, take someone who wants to play a dwarf charisma paladin with a battleaxe, and they want a balanced spread of stats, starting with a 16 charisma. This character will have a +5 attack with his battleaxe, and does 1d10+5 damage. Now take a human fighter who polarized his stats for a 20 strength and took expertise and bastard sword. This fighter has a +10 attack, and does 1d10+5 damage. Currently the paladin and fighter in my group have a difference of 3 points of attack bonus, and even that difference seems significant enough that the paladin considers the fighter to be the more important character for the group, and often refuses magic items and offers them to the fighter. I really don't want to deal with any feats that increase the gap, which will become even more significant at mid-paragon tier.</blockquote>