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Message: <blockquote data-quote="grickherder" data-source="post: 4717492" data-attributes="member: 68043">What I'm about to say only applies to levels 1-14.  When expertise hits the +2 bonus and level 15, it's in a whole new ball park compared to other feats.Perhaps a good comparison is what you get to hit by spending a feat on a superior weapon proficiency.Generally speaking, you're going to get either a larger damage die, a +1 hit or a special property like high crit, brutal or defensive.If the priority is +1 to hit (like say switching from a broad sword to a bastard sword) then you're better off with expertise as you can simply keep using the broad sword and get a +1 to hit with every other heavy blade you might pick up.If the priority is additional damage, expertise is only a good idea if there's a similarly typed weapon that does more damage that doesn't require a feat for you to use.  For example, going from a longsword to a broadsword with expertise.  But if we're talking about axes, you'd need to spend the feat on proficiency with the war axe.  There isn't a single handed weapon you can take with a lower proficiency bonus that expertise would then compensate for.If the priority is having those special weapon effects like high crit or brutal or whatever, then unless you can find a weapon you're already proficient with that has them, you're going to have to spend a feat to get that.Now the real love comes for a dwarf with weapon training who alredy knows how to use the war axe and takes expertise and makes it a +3 d12 versatile weapon with a nice +2 to damage.  But that's two feats as well.After level 15, expertise you get you a net +2 or an increase in damage die size and a net +1 (for example, switching from longsword to broadsword).  It's definitely better than spending a feat on proficiency with a superior weapon.My assessment of all this is that it is marginally better than a superior weapon proficiency until level 15 and then obviously better after that.</blockquote>

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