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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4720096" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>Actually, the new classes benefit more from the secondary stat than many of the original classes.</p><p> </p><p>The wizard, for example, has very little outside of at-wills that reference wisdom, and I can't think of any that reference dex or con. So, other than a single once per encounter class feature, the wizard is almost entirely a single stat. However, a lot of the classes in the PHBII rely on their secondary stat for AC [unless they buy a lot of heavy armor feats which still has stat requirements].</p><p> </p><p>Examples:</p><p> </p><p>The avenger's class features each key off their secondary stats (not to mention both secondary stats apply to AC). Each stat has an at-will that benefits from it directly. At each level of encounter attack power there is one power for each class feature with a bonus based on DEX/INT stats. There is also a paragon path that benefits from intelligence.</p><p> </p><p>The barbarian actually needs to either get heavy armor, or <em>some</em> ammount of DEX/INT (they get a boost to AC/Reflex while in light armor, but it isn't enough to allow you to completely dump those stats. You'd probably want a minimum of 14 to start, and even then it wouldn't be that great.)</p><p> </p><p>The class features each use the secondary stat, and will trigger multiple times per battle, as a striker will likely bloody or kill a few enemies each fight presumably. While again there are encounter powers all over the place that benefit from the secondary stats, in this case there are also some dailies and utilities that use the stats. Only one at-will uses con, and none use charisma though.</p><p> </p><p>Compared to Fighters and Wizards, and Wisdom Clerics, etc ... the PHBII classes have more focus on encouraging the secondary stat.</p><p> </p><p>Every class could just max out their attack stat if they wanted to, but most classes discourage it (and, with PHBII having no class with proficiency in scale or plate armor, you can't exactly ignore your stats as you'll need them for AC one way or the other, either for armor prof or using light armor well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4720096, member: 63763"] Actually, the new classes benefit more from the secondary stat than many of the original classes. The wizard, for example, has very little outside of at-wills that reference wisdom, and I can't think of any that reference dex or con. So, other than a single once per encounter class feature, the wizard is almost entirely a single stat. However, a lot of the classes in the PHBII rely on their secondary stat for AC [unless they buy a lot of heavy armor feats which still has stat requirements]. Examples: The avenger's class features each key off their secondary stats (not to mention both secondary stats apply to AC). Each stat has an at-will that benefits from it directly. At each level of encounter attack power there is one power for each class feature with a bonus based on DEX/INT stats. There is also a paragon path that benefits from intelligence. The barbarian actually needs to either get heavy armor, or [i]some[/i] ammount of DEX/INT (they get a boost to AC/Reflex while in light armor, but it isn't enough to allow you to completely dump those stats. You'd probably want a minimum of 14 to start, and even then it wouldn't be that great.) The class features each use the secondary stat, and will trigger multiple times per battle, as a striker will likely bloody or kill a few enemies each fight presumably. While again there are encounter powers all over the place that benefit from the secondary stats, in this case there are also some dailies and utilities that use the stats. Only one at-will uses con, and none use charisma though. Compared to Fighters and Wizards, and Wisdom Clerics, etc ... the PHBII classes have more focus on encouraging the secondary stat. Every class could just max out their attack stat if they wanted to, but most classes discourage it (and, with PHBII having no class with proficiency in scale or plate armor, you can't exactly ignore your stats as you'll need them for AC one way or the other, either for armor prof or using light armor well. [/QUOTE]
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