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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4734724" data-attributes="member: 2011">Actually, this is not "the HARDEST hard encounter". It's only that way if the foe is a solo. There is 1 46th level solo, 3 elites, 3 regulars, and 1 minion in the sample set. These creatures could show up in n, n+1, or n+2 encounters.And, not every PC is a Rogue. Not every PC gets to use weapon proficiency against Reflex. Rogues are the opitome of "I can hit you easier than my friends, but you can hit me easier than hitting my friends too".Explain how Combat Advantage is trivial to get. Yes, it's possible, even without flank. But, trivial?Rogue with Dagger (+1), 18 starting Dex (+7 at level 22), level (+11), Demigod (+1), magic weapon (+5), +3 Proficiency = +2846th level reflexes: 41, 38, 41, 40, 42, 35, 40, 38, average = 39+Rogue hits on a 11, on a 9 with Combat Advantage. This is the best to hit class, maxxed out with Demigod (instead of Sly Trickster), has the best possible magic weapon at his level, and he has a reasonable change to hit a hard encounter foe. Other PCs do not have this, but he does.The Rogue has AC 37: Leather (+3), 18 starting Dex (+7 at level 22), level (+11), Demigod (+1), magic armor (+5)His opponents (the ones who can target AC) to hits are: +33, +32, +31, +31, +30, +31, average = +31.They hit him on a 6. On a 4 if they get combat advantage against the Rogue.So, the Rogue needs a 9 or 11 to hit and the monster needs a 4 or 6 to hit.What happens if the Rogue does not start with an 18 Dex (like the Tiefling in our group)? Or does not take Demigod (which many Rogues might not)? Or only has a +4 magic weapon at level 22 (which is quite possible based on magic item distribution)?Sorry, but your POV is not supportable, even when you stack the deck in your favor with the best to hit class with the best to hit options. That's not reality for every PC in every game.The maxxed out Ranger with the +2 Prof Bow against AC hits on a 14 with combat advantage and 16 without.</blockquote>

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