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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4739908" data-attributes="member: 2011">If you say so. I think thou dost protest too much.I've played with hundreds of people for nearly that long as well and I have never seen:1) A PC marriage in a campaign.2) Two PCs or a PC and NPC fall in love.3) A PC ever respect a rival. Rivals = enemies.I have never ever ever seen the level of roleplaying the hopes and desires of a PC that people sometime claim happens in their games. I have never seen it on any of the videos on YouTube. I have never seen it at a gaming store where people come in and play. I have never seen significant immersion in character beyond the adventuring goals du jour.Ever.And when I go back and read the original DND rules, the term roleplaying is not there. There is one single sentence "Before they begin the campaign, players must decide what role they will play in the campaign, human or otherwise, fighter, cleric, or magic-user."Roles in the original game was a different word for class.Role playing in the original game context was moving your avatar around, exploring, fighting, and looting.The game was about the exciting parts of the adventure, not the mundane parts. There is no doubt that roleplaying plays a part in every game. It's just not even 25% of the time spent in the game in any game I have played in (typically closer to 10% of the time). It's a fraction, not a majority. My only point is that roleplaying is not the core of the game. Combat is the core of the game. More time is spent in combat than in roleplaying. At least, IM (35- years) E. YMMV.</blockquote>

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