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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3804582" data-attributes="member: 4937">How are you bursting my bubble?To begin with, are you asserting that anyone playing an RPG in order have the satisfying experience of vicarious bad-assitude ought to be ashamed of it?  If not, then why are you insisting on see my observation of this fact as a put down?  Do you feel ashamed of it or something?  I assure you that my observation of this fact is based not only on personal experience, but by the open admission of scores of people on these boards that that is one of the reasons that they game and who unlike you don't seem to think that's a problem.  I've got no problem with people who want to put on mental capes and play something like M&M.  By all means, go for it.  All I'm doing is explaining why Tolkien's 'Hobbits' aren't terribly appealing if that is why you want to play, and as such - not unsurprisingly - a sleaker, more adventurous, lethal, martial sort of racial flavor is created for them.   The fact that I prefer a very different sort of play style from the sort that tends to be most popular is first of all the reason I enjoy DMing more than being a PC, and second of all doesn't mean the other sort is badwrongfun.  At the most, I think of it as being a less intellectual sort of play, but intellectualism isn't the end all be all of anything either.Not only does this not burst my bubble, but it doesn't seem to have alot to do with what I actually said, and it looks alot like an admission of a far deeper failing than simply wanting to imagine yourself in a super-heroic role.  I imagine you think you've put me down, but I think you are pretty far from your mark.  Not only do you seem unfamiliar with the source material, but you are pigeoning the race into the same sort of 'either-or' hole that I was ealier speaking out against.  Why do you think 'worldly nomadic traders' is oppossed to 'fat farmers with wooly toes'?  Leaving aside the appendices, it isn't even in opposition to the LotR itself, as we eventually learn over the course of the story that the Hobbits of the Shire are quietly quite cosmopolitian traders indeed.Sarcasm doesn't work over the net nearly as well as you think I does.  But, as for what you seem to intend to say, that's exactly the reason I don't expect them to last.  Third edition 'sexed up' the halfling just about as far as you can sex up unmagical little people, and you are quite right - they still don't bring enough of the kewl.  But the fact that they don't bring the kewl, doesn't in any way actually address or even counter my point as to why D&D has gotten away from the Tolkien inspired halfling appearance and flavor.  I don't think it has anything to do with making it easier to think of reasons why halflings have gone adventuring, because any excuse you could use for a human works just as well for a Hobbit.  You can get all hostile if you want.  It really doesn't bother me.  But its entirely unnecessary.</blockquote>

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