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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6149368" data-attributes="member: 6668292"><p>I think he definitely wanted a confrontation with Batman, but he seemed to be motivated by Chaos, not by Batman. Batman was like a side project, almost, instead of the Chaos. Just my take on the movie, though; not saying your take is invalid or anything.</p><p></p><p>I think this may have contributed to me wanting more of it, and then feeling disappointed when I didn't feel like I got it. Haven't really thought about the trailer playing into it until now.</p><p></p><p>Oh, agreed. It could have been very interesting.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, I quite liked the Arkham Asylum Joker, too (haven't read Frank Miller's). I think I was expecting something more along those lines (including him being a cold-blooded murderer), rather than the focus on Chaos. But, yep, you're right, reinvention is part of the comic book world, and I admitted to being in the minority on Nolan's Joker from the beginning, so it's not like it was a bad choice for them. Just not what I wanted out of it, personally. Again, still a good movie.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The end of TDKR definitely showed a glimpse of it, but he was never Batman smart. Like, one of the 1-3 smartest people on the planet smart. I've always loved that about his character. Well, that, and that he always seems to beat his opponents at their own games (he'll solve Riddler's puzzles, he'll out-punch Killer Croc, he'll unravel Joker's madness, etc.).</p><p></p><p>But, yes, TDKR redeemed him somewhat at the end, there.</p><p></p><p>You know, the "single movie" thing might be a really good point, actually. The movie was already moving so fast, and still felt thin in a lot of areas (like their treatment of Two-Face). I think that even actually giving Joker all the focus may not have been enough, if they focused more on whimsy. An interesting thought. Thanks for pointing that out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 6149368, member: 6668292"] I think he definitely wanted a confrontation with Batman, but he seemed to be motivated by Chaos, not by Batman. Batman was like a side project, almost, instead of the Chaos. Just my take on the movie, though; not saying your take is invalid or anything. I think this may have contributed to me wanting more of it, and then feeling disappointed when I didn't feel like I got it. Haven't really thought about the trailer playing into it until now. Oh, agreed. It could have been very interesting. Yeah, I quite liked the Arkham Asylum Joker, too (haven't read Frank Miller's). I think I was expecting something more along those lines (including him being a cold-blooded murderer), rather than the focus on Chaos. But, yep, you're right, reinvention is part of the comic book world, and I admitted to being in the minority on Nolan's Joker from the beginning, so it's not like it was a bad choice for them. Just not what I wanted out of it, personally. Again, still a good movie. The end of TDKR definitely showed a glimpse of it, but he was never Batman smart. Like, one of the 1-3 smartest people on the planet smart. I've always loved that about his character. Well, that, and that he always seems to beat his opponents at their own games (he'll solve Riddler's puzzles, he'll out-punch Killer Croc, he'll unravel Joker's madness, etc.). But, yes, TDKR redeemed him somewhat at the end, there. You know, the "single movie" thing might be a really good point, actually. The movie was already moving so fast, and still felt thin in a lot of areas (like their treatment of Two-Face). I think that even actually giving Joker all the focus may not have been enough, if they focused more on whimsy. An interesting thought. Thanks for pointing that out. [/QUOTE]
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