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So all these wacky arguments are still about 4e, right?
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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6268866" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>I'm a little more optimistic. I think the two extremes exclude a <em>vast</em> middle ground, and that a flexible D&D can serve even most of the extremes, if they're willing to put in a bit of work.</p><p></p><p>What it can't serve are the fundamentalists who are unwilling to play a game that doesn't adhere to their tribal boundaries. If, say, not having Martial Healing as a core rule is an absolute deal-breaker, I don't think NEXT will serve that person. Or if not having any at-will spellcasting option ever is required, I don't think NEXT will really serve that person, either. But those people aren't as interested in D&D the game as they are in D&D the banner that they can wave to prove that their fun is better than other peoples', and if they don't want to play D&D because of that....that's probably fine. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I think even most of the more passionate message board posters are ultimately not that exclusionary, though. Those folks do exist, and they do post on the boards, but I'm not convinced they're even a significant minority as much as they are a handful of folks with bigger things on their mind than a game of imaginary elves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6268866, member: 2067"] I'm a little more optimistic. I think the two extremes exclude a [I]vast[/I] middle ground, and that a flexible D&D can serve even most of the extremes, if they're willing to put in a bit of work. What it can't serve are the fundamentalists who are unwilling to play a game that doesn't adhere to their tribal boundaries. If, say, not having Martial Healing as a core rule is an absolute deal-breaker, I don't think NEXT will serve that person. Or if not having any at-will spellcasting option ever is required, I don't think NEXT will really serve that person, either. But those people aren't as interested in D&D the game as they are in D&D the banner that they can wave to prove that their fun is better than other peoples', and if they don't want to play D&D because of that....that's probably fine. ;) I think even most of the more passionate message board posters are ultimately not that exclusionary, though. Those folks do exist, and they do post on the boards, but I'm not convinced they're even a significant minority as much as they are a handful of folks with bigger things on their mind than a game of imaginary elves. [/QUOTE]
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