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<blockquote data-quote="bganon" data-source="post: 5945711" data-attributes="member: 60886">What I'm confused about is that &quot;creatures' knowledge of the world&quot; is up to you, and has nothing to do with whether OAs exist in the game or not.&nbsp; OAs are not real, just like hit points and turns aren't real.All a kobold can know is that sometimes they can run past the fighter, and sometimes they can't.&nbsp; This is true regardless of whether OAs exist because kobolds don't know what turns are, so how can they know if they're ending their &quot;turn&quot; next to a fighter or not?&nbsp; How does the kobold know the difference betweenA) Turn 1 move, end adj to fighter, get attacked by fighter on fighter's turn.&nbsp; Turn 2 move past fighter.and B) Turn 1 move past fighter, take OA from fighter. Turn 2 move some more.I can't figure out any way kobolds could possibly know for sure whether OAs exist or not unless they also know for sure that turns exist.&nbsp;&nbsp; So it sounds to me like you want a roleplaying game where creatures react based on their knowledge of the world, and that knowledge includes whether or not unreal things like turns and OAs exist.&nbsp; That's the very definition of metagaming.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bganon, post: 5945711, member: 60886"] What I'm confused about is that "creatures' knowledge of the world" is up to you, and has nothing to do with whether OAs exist in the game or not. OAs are [b]not real[/b], just like hit points and turns aren't real. All a kobold can know is that sometimes they can run past the fighter, and sometimes they can't. This is true regardless of whether OAs exist because kobolds don't know what turns are, so how can they know if they're ending their "turn" next to a fighter or not? How does the kobold know the difference between A) Turn 1 move, end adj to fighter, get attacked by fighter on fighter's turn. Turn 2 move past fighter. and B) Turn 1 move past fighter, take OA from fighter. Turn 2 move some more. I can't figure out any way kobolds could possibly know for sure whether OAs exist or not unless they also know for sure that turns exist. So it sounds to me like you want a roleplaying game where creatures react based on their knowledge of the world, and that knowledge includes whether or not unreal things like turns and OAs exist. That's the very definition of metagaming. [/QUOTE]

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