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<blockquote data-quote="Zaran" data-source="post: 5312182" data-attributes="member: 56710">I barely remember my 2e Darksun material.&nbsp;&nbsp; I seem to remember that there was not much info on anything other than Tyr.&nbsp;&nbsp; In your opinion, does a GM have everything they need in these two books (Creature and Setting) to have a good campaign in Darksun?&nbsp; Or do you think they need to put out supplemental material?&nbsp; In my opinion, a GM should not have to reference older edition material for information. &nbsp;I've looked through my copy of the campaign setting.&nbsp; I thought the player section was done well.&nbsp;&nbsp; The GM section seems way too short for me though.&nbsp; To me, it seems like 4e as a whole just does not know how to give GM support.&nbsp; I think they did much better than the Forgotten Realms book but I hope that this is not the only book with material on Athas that is made.&nbsp; But again, I do not remember if the 2nd Edition Darksun had more info.&nbsp; &nbsp;I have the same issues with the book that have already been brought up.&nbsp; I do think that the Epic level stuff should not have been included in the setting.&nbsp; That should have got it's own book.&nbsp;&nbsp; To me, Epic level encounters does not fit in Darksun.&nbsp; Darksun is supposed to be about struggling and surviving.&nbsp; I feel like those pages could have been better used with more GM material.&nbsp; I am disappointed in the adventure as well.&nbsp; The old flip book adventures for Darksun were awesome and I have to wonder what happened to the skill and love that was put into those adventures.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zaran, post: 5312182, member: 56710"] I barely remember my 2e Darksun material. I seem to remember that there was not much info on anything other than Tyr. In your opinion, does a GM have everything they need in these two books (Creature and Setting) to have a good campaign in Darksun? Or do you think they need to put out supplemental material? In my opinion, a GM should not have to reference older edition material for information. I've looked through my copy of the campaign setting. I thought the player section was done well. The GM section seems way too short for me though. To me, it seems like 4e as a whole just does not know how to give GM support. I think they did much better than the Forgotten Realms book but I hope that this is not the only book with material on Athas that is made. But again, I do not remember if the 2nd Edition Darksun had more info. I have the same issues with the book that have already been brought up. I do think that the Epic level stuff should not have been included in the setting. That should have got it's own book. To me, Epic level encounters does not fit in Darksun. Darksun is supposed to be about struggling and surviving. I feel like those pages could have been better used with more GM material. I am disappointed in the adventure as well. The old flip book adventures for Darksun were awesome and I have to wonder what happened to the skill and love that was put into those adventures. [/QUOTE]

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