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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5632773" data-attributes="member: 82106">Yeah, I don't think you're going to win this one DS. Any of us who have spent time doing careful 4e rules parsing are aware of the fact that the rules are often vague about exactly what is overriding what. If they had understood how to make perfectly precise rules (and believed it was of overriding concern) they'd have done what real wargames do and put every effective rule into a numbered clause and then the exceptions would list the clauses they replace. In the reality of D&D this just isn't so. Some rules will mention a way in which they extend or modify another rule, with the expectation that only the mentioned clauses are impacted. Others, like this case, simply list some new clauses without clearly stating they replace others. However ANY ATTEMPT to strictly construct the rules such that EITHER all mentions of any part of a rule are a total replacement of that rule OR that any override must state exactly what it overrides is unworkable. I'm not going to go through the corpus of 4e rules and show you all the ways that your 'exact' interpretation blows up the rules, but it does, and at fundamental levels that you'd just laugh at if you look at them. Personally I don't think they even screwed up with this power. Overall it is clear how it works and I am pretty sure they simply considered the text as provided to be sufficient to make it clear what sort of exception it is (one that replaces another rule entirely). Equally movable conjurations are clearly still subject to the normal rules. Despite the way 4e's rules are organized MORE independently of the story they support than other editions, they still DO rely on some degree of applying the underlying context to make sense of them. Thus the conjuration rules are clear because clearly the caster is, story wise, 'running' the conjuration and he can't do that if he can't see it anymore. Likewise the Necromancer's minion summon lasts all day because clearly the STORY of that power is that Necros have undead following them around, actual physical undead, albeit raised by magic.</blockquote>

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