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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5633610" data-attributes="member: 7006">Well, to be fair... that's because you're unable to actually give him what he asks for.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Oldtimer's getting closer to what Draco's looking for, but hasn't been able to get it exact.  What we have here is now a situation where without errata... the best we could do is we'd have to go back to precedent and find out if using the word 'otherwise' has in fact been used to completely negate rules in all other times it's occurred.  If it has, then the argument could be made that what Oldtimer points out could be considered correct.  However, if 'otherwise' was not used the same across the board for all the powers it appeared with... then Draco's point still stands.And Moorcrys... you're wrong when you say this isn't a computer program.  To the folks who talk about and argue Rules as Written... the logic to them is as if it was a computer program.  (And I'm not saying that's a proper or correct way to look at things necessarily... but it is a requirement if you're playing the game of rules parsing.)  It's verbal mathematics and logic is king.</blockquote>