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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 6097546" data-attributes="member: 3400">After 17 years he's not skilled enough? Has anyone tried teaching him? Sounds like a good job for you - help him with his next build choices so he can be successful. With cross-class skills being so easy to pick up, a single level of rogue can go along way when added to a ranger build.I'm thinking there's some element of you and the players being at loggerheads over how this game is working. If you are set on running RA and they are set on playing it, and it's not working, someone needs to adapt. If they're not making the connection and adapting, you need to adapt from your neutral arbiter stance and help them adapt. So underline the problem. If they haven't figured it out (or heard the scuttlebutt on the internet), they're in a tough dungeon with lots of traps and fighting encounters - and that isn't going to change. They either need to get out and find an adventure site more to their style or fix their party problems. And it sounds like you need to tell them this in no uncertain terms even if it means you're not playing the neutral arbiter. Tell them where they're weak as a group and give them suggestions in how to fix the problem. And if they're all still set on their characters, tell them that RA will probably munch them up and spit out their bones and ask if they'd rather adventure somewhere else instead.Honestly, this sounds like a semi-disfunctional group rather than a system problem. The group is big and unwieldy. Nobody seems to want to compromise despite a mounting death toll. Do they think things will magically get better if they keep doing the same things they're doing?</blockquote>

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