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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6589015" data-attributes="member: 6788736">The confusion comes from the sentence 'you cant attempt to hide if you are being watched'. A lot of people treat the word 'hide' in that sentence as the game term (Hide action) instead of its plain english meaning. Which, of course makes the sentence a redundant one. Its akin to a sentence saying 'you cant move silently if people can hear you'.The gamist reasoning thus goes: Once LOS is broken (by first moving into total cover or concealment on your turn) it is totally OK to then allow that creature the Hide action, regardless of the fact the enemy knows exactly where you are.The common sense plain english reading of that sentence indicates you cant attempt to hide when you arent being observed by anyone. Simply popping into a box or behind a pillar in an otherwise empty room while under direct observation does not allow you to hide.Ever played Hide and Seek? In order to be 'hidden' the seeker cant know where you are. If he watches you climb into your hiding spot, you arent hidden from anyone.If you follow the gamist reasoning, common sense goes out the window. You can literally have a 2nd level Rogue carrying a cardboard box around, throwing it on the ground at the start of his first turn (in full view of the enemy) using his movement to climb in (gaining total concealment) a bonus action to hide (now that the enemy can no longer see him) followed by an action to pop out and attack (gaining advantage AND sneak attack on the attack). He could repeat this 'jack in the box' insanity every round.If you follow the common sense interpretation none of these shennanigans are possible, and hiding works like it does in real life. Halfling rogues can hide behind the Fighter before triggering the encounter (when not in view of the enemy), and remain hidden as long as they want once the encounter is triggered (assuming the enemy fail Perception checks to spot the little bugger). The instant the Halfling pops out to attack (with advantage and sneak attack) his cover is blown (unless he misses AND has the Skulker feat, in which case he can attempt to hide again).He might be able to hide again, but he will need to double back around to an unexpected spot, have the Skulker feat (as noted above), or use some other ingenious method (DM's call).</blockquote>

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