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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6589059" data-attributes="member: 42582">As I read the rules, one source of confusion is this: a necessary condition of being able to Hide is not being seen; but most of the time, the reason a player wants his/her PC to hide is so as to avoid being seen (and thereby get defensive advantages, ambush advantages, etc).In the particular case of the halfling: the only way the rules make it crystal clear that s/he can't be seen if behind the larger fighter is if the Hide check succeeds; but the only way the Hide check is permitted is if s/he can't be seen behind the fighter.Further complexity comes from the use of the word "obscured" - something can be oscured yet visible (eg if in dim light, patchy fog or behind moderate foliage). How does being obscured interact with the requirement that you can't hide from a creature that can see you? And how does the disadvantage on Perception checks to see lightly obscured things interact with the Hiding rules?I agree with [MENTION=58197]Dausuul[/MENTION] - as written, it's a mess.</blockquote>