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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6589152" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>Hiding is not just 'not being seen' (however that is a prerequisite).</p><p></p><p>When you have total cover or concealment you are not hidden. Even when you are invisible you are not hidden. </p><p></p><p>Hiding (and being hidden) imply something more than just 'not being seen'. It infers a state of mind in the person looking for you. If I know exactly where something is, it is not hidden from me (even though I may not be able to see it). </p><p></p><p>If a person runs into a an otherwise empty room and crawls into a box in full view of me, that person is in no way hidden from me. It may be different if that box contained a secret compartment that led to an underground tunnel that I was unaware of, and the person used this tunnel to double back around to a place that I didnt know he was there before hiding.</p><p></p><p>A DM is well within his rights to allow a person to re-enter hiding during an encounter even when he has already come out of hiding and revealed himself. By doubling back around to a different hiding position, or if the observer is suitably distracted or whatnot. But broadly speaking, once you reveal yourself in an encounter, that's it - they're aware of you, assumed to be keeping tabs on you, and thus no more hiding.</p><p></p><p>I encourage people in this thread to read the Skulker feat and apply some common sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 6589152, member: 6788736"] Hiding is not just 'not being seen' (however that is a prerequisite). When you have total cover or concealment you are not hidden. Even when you are invisible you are not hidden. Hiding (and being hidden) imply something more than just 'not being seen'. It infers a state of mind in the person looking for you. If I know exactly where something is, it is not hidden from me (even though I may not be able to see it). If a person runs into a an otherwise empty room and crawls into a box in full view of me, that person is in no way hidden from me. It may be different if that box contained a secret compartment that led to an underground tunnel that I was unaware of, and the person used this tunnel to double back around to a place that I didnt know he was there before hiding. A DM is well within his rights to allow a person to re-enter hiding during an encounter even when he has already come out of hiding and revealed himself. By doubling back around to a different hiding position, or if the observer is suitably distracted or whatnot. But broadly speaking, once you reveal yourself in an encounter, that's it - they're aware of you, assumed to be keeping tabs on you, and thus no more hiding. I encourage people in this thread to read the Skulker feat and apply some common sense. [/QUOTE]
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