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<blockquote data-quote="fjw70" data-source="post: 6589471" data-attributes="member: 80924"><p>P</p><p></p><p>The halfling ability only works if (1) it allows the halfling to be unseen when concealed by an ally or (2) it provides an exception to the unseen criteria. Since not attempting the hide action or failing the hide roll doesn't confer any special status then (2) must be the correct interpretation.</p><p></p><p>With your car analogy you seem to misunderstand what hide means in 5e. If you duck behind the car and fail a hide check (or not make one) then the enemy can't see you (until they move to a position that makes you be seen) but can still possibly hear you or see dust you kicked up or whatever. Making a successful hide check means he can't be certain you are behind the car. He saw you go behind there but he can't hear you anymore or see any signs you are there. He must do something yo verify that you are there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fjw70, post: 6589471, member: 80924"] P The halfling ability only works if (1) it allows the halfling to be unseen when concealed by an ally or (2) it provides an exception to the unseen criteria. Since not attempting the hide action or failing the hide roll doesn't confer any special status then (2) must be the correct interpretation. With your car analogy you seem to misunderstand what hide means in 5e. If you duck behind the car and fail a hide check (or not make one) then the enemy can't see you (until they move to a position that makes you be seen) but can still possibly hear you or see dust you kicked up or whatever. Making a successful hide check means he can't be certain you are behind the car. He saw you go behind there but he can't hear you anymore or see any signs you are there. He must do something yo verify that you are there. [/QUOTE]
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