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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 8921139" data-attributes="member: 29398">Where I don't map those two bolded bits to be at all equivalent, assuming the character has been in play a while.Actions (and in some cases words) define a character's alignment.  If you've got LG written on your sheet yet your PC's secret night sport is killing otherwise-innocent town guards, there's a clear disconnect between three views on that PC's alignment:The player thinks it's LG because that's what's written on the sheet.The other players/PCs think it's [whatever its prior in-play actions suggest]The DM (and, thus, the deities/universe/etc.) think it's NE or CE due to the secret activities only the DM and player know about.Who is right here?  Answer: the DM.</blockquote>