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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1365793" data-attributes="member: 5890"><p>Which is not what 'racial memory' means. What you refer to is commonly known as 'historical records'.</p><p></p><p>I think he was suggesting that your argument was very poorly constructed, leaving him little to say against it that wasn't already contained within it.</p><p></p><p>1. Races in the real world certainly aren't nationalities, they tend to be groups of people who trace their heritage back to a particular location, and therefore bloodline of humanity. Usually it just ends up being 'anyone who looks different is a different race' however.</p><p></p><p>2. Races in D&D are clearly defined - elves, dwarves, humans, halflings, orcs are all seperate races. Their heritage is unknown - perhaps they are all as closely related as human races are. Regardless, if elves discriminate against dwarves for being dwarves, that's racism.</p><p></p><p>3. Your 'cats vs dogs' argument might possibly hold water if cats and dogs were classified as races in either of the settings we discuss. They're not, so it doesn't.</p><p></p><p>4. Furthermore in order for your 'cats vs dogs' argument to work, the cat lover would have to be actively discriminating. If, for instance, he couldn't stand having dogs on his property for no other reason than the fact that they're dogs, and he took specific measures against dogs to prevent them from coming on his property, and he let cats freely enter his property simply because they're cats, then he would be said to be specist.</p><p></p><p>In precisely the same way that sun elves are racist.</p><p></p><p>Do my eyes decieve me, or did you just say "participating in racial discrimination doesn't make someone a racist"</p><p></p><p></p><p>What you're seeing IS discrimination. Unfortunately for you, it's purely based on whether or not you're in the military.</p><p></p><p>I just want you to feel you're doing well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 1365793, member: 5890"] Which is not what 'racial memory' means. What you refer to is commonly known as 'historical records'. I think he was suggesting that your argument was very poorly constructed, leaving him little to say against it that wasn't already contained within it. 1. Races in the real world certainly aren't nationalities, they tend to be groups of people who trace their heritage back to a particular location, and therefore bloodline of humanity. Usually it just ends up being 'anyone who looks different is a different race' however. 2. Races in D&D are clearly defined - elves, dwarves, humans, halflings, orcs are all seperate races. Their heritage is unknown - perhaps they are all as closely related as human races are. Regardless, if elves discriminate against dwarves for being dwarves, that's racism. 3. Your 'cats vs dogs' argument might possibly hold water if cats and dogs were classified as races in either of the settings we discuss. They're not, so it doesn't. 4. Furthermore in order for your 'cats vs dogs' argument to work, the cat lover would have to be actively discriminating. If, for instance, he couldn't stand having dogs on his property for no other reason than the fact that they're dogs, and he took specific measures against dogs to prevent them from coming on his property, and he let cats freely enter his property simply because they're cats, then he would be said to be specist. In precisely the same way that sun elves are racist. Do my eyes decieve me, or did you just say "participating in racial discrimination doesn't make someone a racist" What you're seeing IS discrimination. Unfortunately for you, it's purely based on whether or not you're in the military. I just want you to feel you're doing well. [/QUOTE]
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