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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 1366855" data-attributes="member: 4134">I see you want to cling to your opinion that all sun elves (or the vast majority of) are racist. IMO that theory is wrong, and as long as you don't give me a (preferably current) source that states something like "the (vast) majority of sun elves are racist", I won't change that opinion. Word play. "I prefer my race/culture/nation to others" and "I think my race/culture/nation is the best there is" is more or less the same. But patriotism/racism has always been a double standard: Some can praise their own race/culture/nation all time, waving their flat, putting their colors everywhere and refuse to get any influence from other races/cultures/nations and they call it patriotism. Others do so but eveyone calls them racists.It's always interesting how fast the term "nazi" will come up.I see the other quite often: Elves are bashed no matter what. In 3.5 for example, they got nothing (or nearly nothing, they get both longsword and rapier where they got only one before - not a big deal and something that many have done anyway), while other races - especially the dwarves - got quite a good package, but you don't get people wound up because of that.Not just historical records. It's also oral traditionHuman races, however you might define them, are still the same thing: Humans. They are no significant differences.Their heritage isn't unknown. Don't forget that in D&D (especially FR, which is what we talk about here), the gods are very real and take a direct interest in their worshippers. While you can debate all day about the truth behind the Adam-and-Eve story, in D&D it is not just belief that elves were first born from drops of blood shed by corellon, it's truth. And they aren't closely related at all. They are different species.What are cats and dogs, if not races. If with races you mean species (Star Wars d20 uses that term, for example), cats are a species alright. As are dogs. As are elves, dwarves, halflings......There are a lot of people doing exactly that: They forbid dogs on their lawn, but don't mind about cats. I wouldn't go as far as call them speciesist, and many of them like dogs - they just not want them on their property.No. But I do say that barring your homeland and retreat from the world to other races is not racist.</blockquote>

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