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Message: <blockquote data-quote="drnuncheon" data-source="post: 1418180" data-attributes="member: 96">What was the level ratio there?  Mine is human Ftr4/Rog11/Duelist 2 (the last being recently added after the 3.5 changes to the class) and he hangs with the paladin in terms of general effectiveness - I think the spare human feat helped a lot.  I took basically two trees: rapier-specific feats (WF, Focus, WS, Imp Crit) and the Whirlwind tree, and improved feint.  Most of the damage comes from bonuses rather than the base die, plus criticals (12-20 crit range, as we voted to keep the 3.0 rules on those) and feint/sneak attack.Losing full attacks isn't so bad if you're getting the sneak attack bonus damage (trade a second attack at -5 for the chance at +3d6 or more on the main attack? Sure! Sounds great to me!).My wife's character in a different game is also a Ftr/Rog, also with improved critical and weapon specialization, and she does quite well. The other character there is also multiclassed, so that may not be as good evidence.Clearly this so-called swashbuckler has never had to hide naked in an arras while the lady's husband stormed about the room in a fit of jealous rage. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  'Backstabbing' is no longer part of D&D, and sneak attacks can be triggered by feints (which is the thing of swashbucklers and duelists).  The beautiful thing about the rogue class is that its skill set is so broad, it doesn't have to include any of the 'classic thief' skills.  Take Diplomacy, Bluff, Tumble, Jump, Climb, and Balance to start...Spot and Listen are always good, or suitably swashbuckly Professions like 'sailor', or even cross-class skills (you certainly have the points for them).J</blockquote>

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