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<blockquote data-quote="Walking Dad" data-source="post: 5377832" data-attributes="member: 59043">Classes that can suddenly fill other roles:Fighter, Ranger, DruidMulti power source classes!Multi role classes!Different starting proficiencies (cleric vs warpriest)---Add all the slow changes they made in preparation of essentials (like many people pointed out they made in 3.5 with sourcebooks like 'Tome of Battle'), like being able to choose between race ability bonuses.Yes, many things are listed as options, but like many of the new feats, showing a better, more supported option (nerf to the feat that allows to change the ability used for melee basic attacks -&gt; new classes get it as class ability; new expertise feats) is also a slow replacement.See also the fluff support between standard infernal warlocks and infernal hexblades with their 'iconic' race: The new tiefling can get 'perfect' stats for the essential variant, but not the old 4e.And I'm fine with it. I'm not fine with people who treat other like being dumb for comparing essentials with a revised edition. It is to similar.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Walking Dad, post: 5377832, member: 59043"] Classes that can suddenly fill other roles: Fighter, Ranger, Druid Multi power source classes! Multi role classes! Different starting proficiencies (cleric vs warpriest) --- Add all the slow changes they made in preparation of essentials (like many people pointed out they made in 3.5 with sourcebooks like 'Tome of Battle'), like being able to choose between race ability bonuses. Yes, many things are listed as options, but like many of the new feats, showing a better, more supported option (nerf to the feat that allows to change the ability used for melee basic attacks -> new classes get it as class ability; new expertise feats) is also a slow replacement. See also the fluff support between standard infernal warlocks and infernal hexblades with their 'iconic' race: The new tiefling can get 'perfect' stats for the essential variant, but not the old 4e. And I'm fine with it. I'm not fine with people who treat other like being dumb for comparing essentials with a revised edition. It is to similar. [/QUOTE]

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