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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 5377962" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>True, however it took a long time. It wasn't simply a matter of new words being added to the language, but the loss and replacement of old words/pronunciations/etc. The English language is constantly getting yearly patches with slang words (house rules?) becoming official, but we are yet to declare it English.5 It's obviously barely compatible with Ye Olde Englyshe and the like which predated widespread literacy and the printing press.</p><p> </p><p>I see it like people. If you see them everyday, you won't really notice the slow changes that occur over time. However, if it was say an old friend you run into again at the tenth school reunion, you may be shocked at how different they look.</p><p> </p><p>If you have been playing 4e regularly, Essentials is just another small change to things. If you haven't looked at 4e since day one, it's a radical change ... but since you haven't been looking at 4e, or you've been playing with just the first core books and nothing else ... it seems kind of moot. You were happy ignoring the changes that were going on [either because you weren't playing at all, or didn't feel the need to add to your existing game], why the change of heart? Either you gave up on 4e initialy (in which case, you likely wanted something different, in which case at 4e has changed since then).</p><p> </p><p>Putting a stamp on "it's different now" is sort of a moot point. Every single edition has put out new content over time which adds to the game, and occaisionally, especially with the internet making it easier, issue errata to fix problems. There have been revised editions, ones that basically took a lot of errata and dropped it in a single chunk, making most older content out of date as a result. Because of the internet, 4e has been able to release it's errata over time instead of a single chunk. So, while the 4e may now be a possition where it is as different from where it started as 3 was from 3.5, the comparison is still wrong.</p><p> </p><p>3.5 obsoleted the 3.0 material, and what happened afterwards was a reprinting of most of the old content so that it was compatible with 3.5. With Essentials, while the game around it may have been errata'd to the point of being a new game, Essentials itself has still releasing new content while allowing the old content to continue to exist, not "it can be jury rigged to fit until we issue the official reprint using the updated rules". It may be simply a matter of technology catching up with the goals of 3.5, but it's a lot cheaper to get the errata for free than to have to buy the same book twice to get the rules updates.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 5377962, member: 63763"] True, however it took a long time. It wasn't simply a matter of new words being added to the language, but the loss and replacement of old words/pronunciations/etc. The English language is constantly getting yearly patches with slang words (house rules?) becoming official, but we are yet to declare it English.5 It's obviously barely compatible with Ye Olde Englyshe and the like which predated widespread literacy and the printing press. I see it like people. If you see them everyday, you won't really notice the slow changes that occur over time. However, if it was say an old friend you run into again at the tenth school reunion, you may be shocked at how different they look. If you have been playing 4e regularly, Essentials is just another small change to things. If you haven't looked at 4e since day one, it's a radical change ... but since you haven't been looking at 4e, or you've been playing with just the first core books and nothing else ... it seems kind of moot. You were happy ignoring the changes that were going on [either because you weren't playing at all, or didn't feel the need to add to your existing game], why the change of heart? Either you gave up on 4e initialy (in which case, you likely wanted something different, in which case at 4e has changed since then). Putting a stamp on "it's different now" is sort of a moot point. Every single edition has put out new content over time which adds to the game, and occaisionally, especially with the internet making it easier, issue errata to fix problems. There have been revised editions, ones that basically took a lot of errata and dropped it in a single chunk, making most older content out of date as a result. Because of the internet, 4e has been able to release it's errata over time instead of a single chunk. So, while the 4e may now be a possition where it is as different from where it started as 3 was from 3.5, the comparison is still wrong. 3.5 obsoleted the 3.0 material, and what happened afterwards was a reprinting of most of the old content so that it was compatible with 3.5. With Essentials, while the game around it may have been errata'd to the point of being a new game, Essentials itself has still releasing new content while allowing the old content to continue to exist, not "it can be jury rigged to fit until we issue the official reprint using the updated rules". It may be simply a matter of technology catching up with the goals of 3.5, but it's a lot cheaper to get the errata for free than to have to buy the same book twice to get the rules updates. [/QUOTE]
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