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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Ernie" data-source="post: 5384412" data-attributes="member: 58517">Except your second and third points are, again, addtions. They didn't change the old Warlock, they just made a new variant that uses Cha as primary statistic; likewise, they didn't remove the old expertise feats, they made new ones that are indeed a lot better - you may say that is in effect replacing them, and you may be right, but an old character with that feat isn't suddenly illegal. Likewise, existing classes were not changed; old characters don't suddenly have their total HP change, their class mechanics change, or their skills remodeled.You keep saying &quot;Essentials rules changes&quot; when talking about new material (which is not changing the existing rules), which is really twisting the issue. Yes, there have been rules changes. Continuously so, ever since the first PHB was released. And a lot of those changes improved the game, either fixing stuff that didn't work as intended, or nerfing stuff that was stronger than intended.Again: Essentials is an addition. There may be rules changes accompanying it, but there have been rules changes since the beginning of 4E, so they are nothing new. You are of course free to diagree with and ignore the changes they've made, much like you every other rules update before Essentials.EDIT: Ninja'ed, and by a lance, no less. Where are those mounted combat rules?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Ernie, post: 5384412, member: 58517"] Except your second and third points are, again, addtions. They didn't change the old Warlock, they just made a new variant that uses Cha as primary statistic; likewise, they didn't remove the old expertise feats, they made new ones that are indeed a lot better - you may say that is in effect replacing them, and you may be right, but an old character with that feat isn't suddenly illegal. Likewise, existing classes were not changed; old characters don't suddenly have their total HP change, their class mechanics change, or their skills remodeled. You keep saying "Essentials rules changes" when talking about new material (which is not changing the existing rules), which is really twisting the issue. Yes, there have been rules changes. Continuously so, ever since the first PHB was released. And a lot of those changes improved the game, either fixing stuff that didn't work as intended, or nerfing stuff that was stronger than intended. Again: Essentials is an addition. There may be rules changes accompanying it, but there have been rules changes since the beginning of 4E, so they are nothing new. You are of course free to diagree with and ignore the changes they've made, much like you every other rules update before Essentials. EDIT: Ninja'ed, and by a lance, no less. Where are those mounted combat rules? [/QUOTE]

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