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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 6182808" data-attributes="member: 1165">That's one too many. High and gray elves (and eladrin) are the same thing. They're just different names for the same species in different settings (I think gray elves are Greyhawk, and eladrin are Points of Light).That's still the same thing. Hill/mountain/deep dwarves are just cultural groups. This is made clearer in Dragonlance than in other settings, where the seven different types of dwarves are just clans (except possibly the gully dwarves, who are either part-gnome or modified by Chaos). I vaguely recall one of the clans was supposedly part-human to explain their ability to use arcane magic.Rock gnomes are dwarf gnomes, forest gnomes are elf gnomes... no wonder gnomes have had such trouble being cool and distinct. It wasn't until Eberron (and then Pathfinder and 4e) that they had identities distinct from elves, dwarves and halflings. There's no need for the two first types of gnomes to be subraces.These were loosely based on differences among halflings in Middle-earth. The Tooks were Tallfellows/Fallohides. Of course, they lived literally next door from other &quot;types&quot; of halflings. They're not even different ethnic groups. That's more like a family tradition, so a background.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 6182808, member: 1165"] That's one too many. High and gray elves (and eladrin) are the same thing. They're just different names for the same species in different settings (I think gray elves are Greyhawk, and eladrin are Points of Light). That's still the same thing. Hill/mountain/deep dwarves are just cultural groups. This is made clearer in Dragonlance than in other settings, where the seven different types of dwarves are just clans (except possibly the gully dwarves, who are either part-gnome or modified by Chaos). I vaguely recall one of the clans was supposedly part-human to explain their ability to use arcane magic. Rock gnomes are dwarf gnomes, forest gnomes are elf gnomes... no wonder gnomes have had such trouble being cool and distinct. It wasn't until Eberron (and then Pathfinder and 4e) that they had identities distinct from elves, dwarves and halflings. There's no need for the two first types of gnomes to be subraces. These were loosely based on differences among halflings in Middle-earth. The Tooks were Tallfellows/Fallohides. Of course, they lived [i]literally next door[/i] from other "types" of halflings. They're not even different ethnic groups. That's more like a family tradition, so a background. [/QUOTE]

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