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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James McMurray" data-source="post: 4536232" data-attributes="member: 743">Yep.Actually, I told him how others have fun differently than he appears to. I at no point told him what he should do with his game.You're assuming these abilities will not be synergistic with the current fighter. If they aren't, you're right that they belong somewhere else. I've yet to see anything that says they would have to be, and have even proposed one power that would be very synergistic with the fighter's abilities.You're right. Then again, there are a lot of ways to hit somebody with a melee weapon in the PHB. I guess we didn't need Martial Power after all. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> "We have choices" != "no more choices should be given."How does this let you do anything other than a basic attack, which would be the only reason for creating powers in the first place.Still basic attacks only.You can't paragon into a ranger path, barring new ones in MP that don't require class abilities. Unless you meant to do full-on paragon multi-classing, which might be a decent choice, depending on MP's feats.But even then, you're stuck having to pump dexterity despite a large number of good thrown weapons out there, in which case you're probably better off just being a rogue or ranger in the first place. The current system has no place for a Heavy Thrown specialist. An increased Fighter repertoire would be one way to rectify that (though definitely not the only one).What I'm saying is that I disagree. A fighter's primary class abilities require being adjacent. Alternative class abilities and/or synergistic power design can easily change that.Now, then? Nobody convinced by the other side yet? Didn't think so. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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