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<blockquote data-quote="Satyrn" data-source="post: 7466698" data-attributes="member: 6801204"><p>It probably doesn't.</p><p></p><p>A monster's CR is determined by 2 parts - it's damage output and its damage input.</p><p></p><p>To figure out its damage output, you figure out its average damage/round by adding all the damage it does over 3 rounds, assuming it uses its best attacks, and that it hits every time (or its targets fail every save) and deals average damage on each strike.</p><p></p><p>Now, I don't actually know what your Ambush feature does, but if it primarily makes it more likely that the ogre actually hits in the first round, then it's not adding anything that isn't already assumed in the calculation (because we're already assuming every attack hits over 3 rounds).</p><p></p><p>I might guess that an Ambush feature also adds some damage. If that means it's +1d6 on the first round, it's adding 3 damage on the first round, whuch actually works to onky +1 damage to its average over 3 rounds. That probably won't affect its damage output rating, and certainly won't once its defense rating is averaged in.</p><p></p><p>Unless the ogre is already a strong CR 2 - like, on the verge of being CR 3 - it would probably have to be dealing somewhere around +5d6 damage before it affects the CR.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Satyrn, post: 7466698, member: 6801204"] It probably doesn't. A monster's CR is determined by 2 parts - it's damage output and its damage input. To figure out its damage output, you figure out its average damage/round by adding all the damage it does over 3 rounds, assuming it uses its best attacks, and that it hits every time (or its targets fail every save) and deals average damage on each strike. Now, I don't actually know what your Ambush feature does, but if it primarily makes it more likely that the ogre actually hits in the first round, then it's not adding anything that isn't already assumed in the calculation (because we're already assuming every attack hits over 3 rounds). I might guess that an Ambush feature also adds some damage. If that means it's +1d6 on the first round, it's adding 3 damage on the first round, whuch actually works to onky +1 damage to its average over 3 rounds. That probably won't affect its damage output rating, and certainly won't once its defense rating is averaged in. Unless the ogre is already a strong CR 2 - like, on the verge of being CR 3 - it would probably have to be dealing somewhere around +5d6 damage before it affects the CR. [/QUOTE]
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