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So I want Craft Wand.. but without caster levels.
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<blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 4122030" data-attributes="member: 1956"><p>Here some ideas.</p><p></p><p>1: Mage/Rogue multiclass (+prestige class) build.</p><p></p><p>This is basic. Arcane Trickster in DMG will be the start. But Complete books has more of such prestige classes. Practiced Spellcaster feat will help you.</p><p></p><p>2: Beguiler (PHB II)</p><p></p><p>Full-caster. Can substitute a rogue for dungeon delving (has Trapfinding class feature and Search and Disable Device as class skills). Lacks damaging spells in it's class list. But it has UMD as a class skill. So eventurally you will start to use any wands.</p><p></p><p>3: Rogue/Cleric with Magic domain.</p><p></p><p>Well, even a level of cleric and Practiced Spellcaster feat will allow you to take Craft Wand feat. But if you really delve this build, Shadowbane Stalker class in Complete Adventurer is a perfect "solve everything" type of character. You can act as a rogue, make sneak attacks, cast Cleric spells (and Divine Insight spell boosts your skills), use spell slots for enhancing combat capabilities, and if you take Magic domain, you can use Sorcerer/Wizard wands without maximizing UMD.</p><p></p><p>4: Rogue or Scout 1/Warlock X</p><p></p><p>Warlock is the king of UMD. And with caster level (yes, caster level for his invocations), you can take Item crafting feats and at class level 12 you can provide ANY required spells for making magic items. For this way, I will start from a L1 of Rogue or Scout, and take Able Learner feat (in Races of Destiny) and give him at least decent Int (14 for point buy will be enough), then take warlock levels thereafter. Thanks to Able Learner feat, this character needs to spend only 1 point for any class skills of Rogue or Scout you took at the first level, even when he levels up as a Warlock.</p><p></p><p>Similar build can be made as Rogue or Scout 1/Wizard X and this works good, too. Wizard has high int and thus good amount of skill points to spend. And of course, you can take Craft Wand feat at L6 (Rogue or Scout 1/Wizard 5) as a bonus feat.</p><p></p><p>Edit : Special Offer ! All you need is a caster level.</p><p></p><p>Be some race with innate spell-like ability which has caster level equal to your character level. Drow, Duerger (double it's level!), and various planetouched races has such spell-like abilities.</p><p></p><p>Now even if you are a single class rogue, you can qualify for Craft Wand feat easily and use wands with UMD. And with UMD and some scrolls, you may craft your own wands.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shin Okada, post: 4122030, member: 1956"] Here some ideas. 1: Mage/Rogue multiclass (+prestige class) build. This is basic. Arcane Trickster in DMG will be the start. But Complete books has more of such prestige classes. Practiced Spellcaster feat will help you. 2: Beguiler (PHB II) Full-caster. Can substitute a rogue for dungeon delving (has Trapfinding class feature and Search and Disable Device as class skills). Lacks damaging spells in it's class list. But it has UMD as a class skill. So eventurally you will start to use any wands. 3: Rogue/Cleric with Magic domain. Well, even a level of cleric and Practiced Spellcaster feat will allow you to take Craft Wand feat. But if you really delve this build, Shadowbane Stalker class in Complete Adventurer is a perfect "solve everything" type of character. You can act as a rogue, make sneak attacks, cast Cleric spells (and Divine Insight spell boosts your skills), use spell slots for enhancing combat capabilities, and if you take Magic domain, you can use Sorcerer/Wizard wands without maximizing UMD. 4: Rogue or Scout 1/Warlock X Warlock is the king of UMD. And with caster level (yes, caster level for his invocations), you can take Item crafting feats and at class level 12 you can provide ANY required spells for making magic items. For this way, I will start from a L1 of Rogue or Scout, and take Able Learner feat (in Races of Destiny) and give him at least decent Int (14 for point buy will be enough), then take warlock levels thereafter. Thanks to Able Learner feat, this character needs to spend only 1 point for any class skills of Rogue or Scout you took at the first level, even when he levels up as a Warlock. Similar build can be made as Rogue or Scout 1/Wizard X and this works good, too. Wizard has high int and thus good amount of skill points to spend. And of course, you can take Craft Wand feat at L6 (Rogue or Scout 1/Wizard 5) as a bonus feat. Edit : Special Offer ! All you need is a caster level. Be some race with innate spell-like ability which has caster level equal to your character level. Drow, Duerger (double it's level!), and various planetouched races has such spell-like abilities. Now even if you are a single class rogue, you can qualify for Craft Wand feat easily and use wands with UMD. And with UMD and some scrolls, you may craft your own wands. [/QUOTE]
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