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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Denaes" data-source="post: 2728794" data-attributes="member: 33738">I wanted a zombie of sorts... not quite like a Night of the Living Dead brainless zombie... maybe something similar to the Crow where I can still act like a human (not invincible or supernaturally enhanced per se), but I definately want to look dead and be undead.Well we're running in Eberron loosely, starting about level 9-12 (not 100% sure yet) and playing a neutral party. Maybe evil alignments, but we're opportunists taking care of a multi-way war to our best benefit. So far there is an Ogre Barbarian (not yet created). I was drawing a blank, but the GM and I are zombie movie nuts so I was like "how about an undead intelligent zombie type?"I checked out Libre Mortis and I'm confused by it pretty much. Is that book 3.5 or 3.0? It doesn't seem to jive with 3.5 stat blocks that I can tell, because I never owned a MM book for 3.x - I just ran games without it.Lets say I'm going to create a human fighter who was raised from the dead by an Evil Necromancer to save him from our party and for some strange reason (because I'm a PC dammit!) I was intelligent still and had self control and just stabbed the Necromancer. According to Libre Mortis, the alignments and things like free will & being mindless are pretty much mutable for a player. You can be a Neutral Good ghoul or a zombie with a good sense of humor and is a strong zombie rights activist. because you're PCs and playing a mindless CR 1/2 zombie would pretty much stink. So starting off with a level 1 and moving upward: Level 1 Fighter, zombie stuff is here: <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/zombie.htm" target="_blank">http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/zombie.htm</a>. This has notes on how to make a standard (non-pc) zombie which mentions class progressions, but not really how to make things more PC. Would this have an ECL of +1 to start off as a zombie human? You'd have 2d12 hp, but no con bonus. +2 armour, 1d6 slam damage, DR 5/slashing, poor reflexes (one action, move OR attack). Gains Toughness. No skills, +2Str, -2Dex, no con, 1Cha, 10Wis. The ability scores don't seem to jive with being a PC very well and the no skills, no feats makes sense for the first level but do you advance as normal afterwards?There are 1 or 2 templates in Libre Mortis I might like to apply to the character: Fast Zombie & Indistructable Zombie (seems to help balance the fact that a zombie is dead at 0 or -1 hp and the lower HP).If something else fits a Player undead corpse with intelligence & free will and works with a party of Breathers and interacting with breathers (ie, the the Ghasts stench would not work) then I'm open to suggestions. The way this game looks, we're supposed to be characters who are pretty capable and strong. I'm not looking to min/max for the best benefits, but just get something that represents my concept.</blockquote>

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