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<blockquote data-quote="Denaes" data-source="post: 2729072" data-attributes="member: 33738"><p>Can't explain 100% here as the book I'm borrowing is at home, so I'm going on memory.</p><p></p><p>But the undead writeups I saw didn't have PC template instructions. Thats why I didn't think it was 3.5. </p><p></p><p>Like here: <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/ogre.htm" target="_blank">http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/ogre.htm</a></p><p></p><p>The Ogre flat out says what a PC gets because it's considered "PC friendly". In a book about undead which devotes a decent focus to playing undead, I'd assume to see those "<undead> As Characters" templates for easy Drag & Drop for the undead presented in the book and all of the popular/common undead. </p><p></p><p>They said there were two options for PCs: Templates & Undead Levels. The templates just seemed to mention a type of undead and what the ECL was, not an explicit writeup of player bonuses/benefits. The few Undead races there were didn't cover the basics - player zombies are far more a staple of Roleplaying than all the other undead sans vampires. </p><p></p><p>At least a note about the other common undead like zombies would have been less generic/vague "we know you want to play an undead character, a zombie won't be a good choice becuase of X, Y, Z - but these undead are very similar but sentient and more PC friendly"</p><p></p><p>In the hour I was looking at the book they had the few undead classes and a lot of undead statblocks and templates for them, but no notes on how to apply those templates to the stat blocks AND make them into PCs. They didn't effect the # of hit dice and I think that was the only thing that modified the ECL. </p><p></p><p>But that statement and what I'm gleening from the book are based on an hours reading and flipping. There could be more there or it might be a book with a focus on playing undead - but only specific examples and you're in the dark for the rest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Denaes, post: 2729072, member: 33738"] Can't explain 100% here as the book I'm borrowing is at home, so I'm going on memory. But the undead writeups I saw didn't have PC template instructions. Thats why I didn't think it was 3.5. Like here: [url]http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/ogre.htm[/url] The Ogre flat out says what a PC gets because it's considered "PC friendly". In a book about undead which devotes a decent focus to playing undead, I'd assume to see those "<undead> As Characters" templates for easy Drag & Drop for the undead presented in the book and all of the popular/common undead. They said there were two options for PCs: Templates & Undead Levels. The templates just seemed to mention a type of undead and what the ECL was, not an explicit writeup of player bonuses/benefits. The few Undead races there were didn't cover the basics - player zombies are far more a staple of Roleplaying than all the other undead sans vampires. At least a note about the other common undead like zombies would have been less generic/vague "we know you want to play an undead character, a zombie won't be a good choice becuase of X, Y, Z - but these undead are very similar but sentient and more PC friendly" In the hour I was looking at the book they had the few undead classes and a lot of undead statblocks and templates for them, but no notes on how to apply those templates to the stat blocks AND make them into PCs. They didn't effect the # of hit dice and I think that was the only thing that modified the ECL. But that statement and what I'm gleening from the book are based on an hours reading and flipping. There could be more there or it might be a book with a focus on playing undead - but only specific examples and you're in the dark for the rest. [/QUOTE]
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