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So I was more or less kicked out of my D&D group
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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 671444" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>Well, sure, I think that's an accurate summary of what I'm saying. I was confused when you said I was laying all the blame on DC: I'm clearly not doing so. If I inadvertently sneeze on you, I've been rude to you; if you deck me for it, you've responded very poorly to my rudeness. Just because I started it in no way makes you blameless.</p><p></p><p>Obviously, different groups have different expectations for behavior within the group. ACCORDING TO DC, his DM told him that the not-showing-up was unacceptable, and that the not-paying-attention was unacceptable. DC has apologized to his DM for not paying attention, that's true -- and he behaved correctly in doing so. But he doesn't seem very apologetic about it here, and he doesn't seem to recognize that the DM has a valid complaint about his not showing up.</p><p></p><p>Again, if the DM didn't find these behaviors unacceptable, we wouldn't have this thread. Saying that the behaviors are acceptable in some groups doesn't cut it.</p><p></p><p>Did other players do the same thing? Possibly, but given the DM's wildly different responses to other folks and to DC, I'm guessing that the DM perceived DC's behavior differently. DC hasn't provided any explanation for why the DM perceived his behavior differently.</p><p></p><p>In any case, I've said my piece in this thread. Either DC will give more weight to his social commitments in the future, or not; either he'll pay more attention in future gaming sessions, or not. Opinions are like knees in the land of the one-legged: everybody's got one.</p><p></p><p>I get the impression that DC would hate my game, and that I'd not be happy with him as a player. That, too, is fine; fortunately, we'll never need to play with one another. I do wish you luck, DC, with your new group, and hopefully they'll be a group that enjoys a more casual approach to gaming, in keeping with your preferences.</p><p></p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 671444, member: 259"] Well, sure, I think that's an accurate summary of what I'm saying. I was confused when you said I was laying all the blame on DC: I'm clearly not doing so. If I inadvertently sneeze on you, I've been rude to you; if you deck me for it, you've responded very poorly to my rudeness. Just because I started it in no way makes you blameless. Obviously, different groups have different expectations for behavior within the group. ACCORDING TO DC, his DM told him that the not-showing-up was unacceptable, and that the not-paying-attention was unacceptable. DC has apologized to his DM for not paying attention, that's true -- and he behaved correctly in doing so. But he doesn't seem very apologetic about it here, and he doesn't seem to recognize that the DM has a valid complaint about his not showing up. Again, if the DM didn't find these behaviors unacceptable, we wouldn't have this thread. Saying that the behaviors are acceptable in some groups doesn't cut it. Did other players do the same thing? Possibly, but given the DM's wildly different responses to other folks and to DC, I'm guessing that the DM perceived DC's behavior differently. DC hasn't provided any explanation for why the DM perceived his behavior differently. In any case, I've said my piece in this thread. Either DC will give more weight to his social commitments in the future, or not; either he'll pay more attention in future gaming sessions, or not. Opinions are like knees in the land of the one-legged: everybody's got one. I get the impression that DC would hate my game, and that I'd not be happy with him as a player. That, too, is fine; fortunately, we'll never need to play with one another. I do wish you luck, DC, with your new group, and hopefully they'll be a group that enjoys a more casual approach to gaming, in keeping with your preferences. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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