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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 4079573" data-attributes="member: 5889">Hardly. The 3e rogue for example could be a cunning diplomat, a sneak thief, a skillful expert, a swashbuckler, or with multiclass could add skillfullness to another martial class. While each one o these is "narrow" as you describe, that's a wide variety of things you could be off of one class.The purpose of classes is to provide some consistent bonuses and abilities to each player and to each party. In 3e, this meant everyone got hitpoints, saves, attacks every level....it prevented you from playing a fighter with a +20 attack bonus and 1 hitpoint at first level.And even if int adds something to a fighter, it doesn't mean every fighter suddenly has to be smart to compete. Obviously, having a big strength helps the fighter tremendously. If int provides a small benefit, then it becomes an option, but certainly not a mandatory one. I don't mind that int has been removed from skills, but it should continue to provide some benefit imo.</blockquote>